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Offline riverfish15

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I'm tried of getting shot through hills,ect
« on: March 04, 2008, 01:04:11 PM »
Can some one please explain how a tank can shoot through hills, trees, buildings. I'm getting shot by tanks I can't even see, unless I zoom out.
They are just little black dots then. If I zoom in there are trees, a hill or something else between us. If I shoot the round just explodes in the trees, but he can kill me.
   And thats another thing, six hits on a M4 and no damage wtf. These hits  range from turret , to hull side and back. I would expect a turret hit from a tiger at 2200 would open it up in a instant.
  I am some what new at this, so I might be missing something here. Please enlighten me.

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I'm tried of getting shot through hills,ect
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2008, 01:19:41 PM »
1) Nobody can't shoot through hills or trees. I might just look like that, because the actual flight path of the enemy's shell is not rendered in that detail on your computer then on his. Actually he is shooting just over that hill. Of course that works in both ways - if you shoot at your enemy, it might look for him the same weird way.
(Sometimes when you see an enemy taking down a town, you will notice buildings exploding while the shell still continues it's path, landing way behind the town. This is for the same reason)


2) "I'm getting shot by tanks I can't even see, unless I zoom out.
They are just little black dots then. If I zoom in there are trees, a hill or something else between us."

You basically gave the answer yourself. Depending on systems settings, distant intervening obstacles may disappear, while the tanks behind them are still visible. The exat distance at which that happens depends on detail setting. But don't worry, this is a bug that HTC has already identified and it will be fixed in next update. We are expecting it very soon.

Also, hit Shift-F4 for a ground view mode that might help you spot GV's at greater distance. Shift-F4 gets you back to standard.


3) 2200 is a darn long range in WW2 armored combat. With proper shot placement, a Tiger is able to kill a Sherman Firefly at that range, but it's not unreasonable that shots might also glance off.
Distance, angle, sloped armor, armor thickness, exact shot placement are all important in getting kills.
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I'm tried of getting shot through hills,ect
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2008, 02:05:37 PM »
Great explanation Lusche.:aok

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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2008, 05:26:09 PM »
2200 is 2200 yards, 6600 feet, or 1.25 miles. That's one heck of a long shot.
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Re: I'm tried of getting shot through hills,ect
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008, 11:02:11 AM »
Can some one please explain how a tank can shoot through hills, trees, buildings. I'm getting shot by tanks I can't even see, unless I zoom out.
They are just little black dots then. If I zoom in there are trees, a hill or something else between us. If I shoot the round just explodes in the trees, but he can kill me.
   And thats another thing, six hits on a M4 and no damage wtf. These hits  range from turret , to hull side and back. I would expect a turret hit from a tiger at 2200 would open it up in a instant.
  I am some what new at this, so I might be missing something here. Please enlighten me.

  The tank does not shoot through the hills, you may be getting shot down by another tank, or he may have a slight angle on you.  It's highly unlikely someone would cheat at this game. 
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Re: I'm tried of getting shot through hills,ect
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2008, 12:48:10 PM »
It's 2200 on the gun site, I don't know if it's yards ,feet, miles. I can also zoom out the site and fire at longer ranges. I get hits because I see a white flash on the Gv I'm shooting at, I also see riccochets and
I do understand that. My problem is when I get hits no damage accures. But I get killed with one hit.and yes I'm sure it is the GV firing from long range, not someone else.
I do not understand how at long range how he can pin point his shot.
I realize each vehical has weak spots and they should be shot at.
But at long range putting a round on target is tough.
I look up the stats of these one hit killers and they are at the top.
Makes me wonder if they didn't get so many kills that way where would they be?
Like I said six hits on this one M4 before he kills me with one hit at long range.
As for cheating it's happening all the time

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Re: I'm tried of getting shot through hills,ect
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2008, 01:22:15 PM »

As for cheating it's happening all the time

No, it isn't.
Just talking of cheating is happening all the time, because people do not udnerstand or do think" If I can't do it, no one can"
As I said before 2200 is a long distance, not uncommon the shells bounce at that range. You enemy however had either more luck or was just abetter shot than you. BTW, it's not a standard M4 we have in game but a Firefly, with a VERY powerful main gun. People like ignore that when yelling "no way an M4 kills a tiger head-on"  ;)

Most of those "op stat gv" drivers have thousands of sorties under their belt before they got that good. I can consitantly hit moving targets at 3k out. If stationary, I can aim for specific parts at those ranges. I couldn't do that for a looong time. When I started I couldn't even spot enemies at those distances. After more than 8,000 kills in tanks (and almost 2,000 deaths!), I can say: It's all about practice.
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Re: I'm tried of getting shot through hills,ect
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2008, 01:23:05 PM »
  There are some extremely skilled gunners, tankers, and pilots in this game, I have no doubt that one of them would be able to "pin-point" you and shoot you down. 
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Re: I'm tried of getting shot through hills,ect
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2008, 01:23:08 PM »
Riverfish you have it backwards.

They are at the top because they have MASTERED the game.
They know pretty much everything there is to know.

They can hit you with their 2nd or 3rd shell and kill you because they are hitting you in the right spot.

There is virtually no cheating going on, the only thing in play here is the skill cheat.

You have much to learn grasshopper! Relax and enjoy the journey.


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Re: I'm tried of getting shot through hills,ect
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2008, 01:47:08 PM »
But at long range putting a round on target is tough.

No, hitting the target is easy.  Hitting the target in the right spot is more difficult.  If you're having trouble even hitting the target at long range you're certainly not hitting in the right spot, except possibly by luck.

Practice.
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Re: I'm tried of getting shot through hills,ect
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2008, 01:53:47 PM »
I guess I do, but it's no fun getting killed. :D

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Re: I'm tried of getting shot through hills,ect
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2008, 04:44:38 PM »
It's 2200 on the gun site, I don't know if it's yards ,feet, miles.

99.99% sure it's yards.
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Re: I'm tried of getting shot through hills,ect
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2008, 07:38:06 AM »
Riverfish, everyone playing AH dies a thousand deaths. Then you get up tommorow and do it again.

We've ALL been where you are, we remember what it feels like. For some of us it was yesterday, for others it was back in 2000. 

Practise, practise, practise, read the boards, soak up tips.
And if you can talk to whels,(flys knight) he's forgotten more about GV'ing that most guys know.