For the G33ks- Gary Gygax passed away.

[Arlo]

Arlo..lol
Just ask yourself at all times what would John Wayne do?
Now someone do a dialog of the duke playing D&D. That would be hillarios.

Yaknow ... it would. I bet it'd become an internet cult fave in less than a week.

[NUKE]

crap, I hate being bumped.

Steve, check out the last post on the page before this one.

[Arlo]

Go to Steve's mssg. Hit the "quote" button. Copy the text. Go to your post. Hit the "modify" button. Paste in the quote. It'll save Steve the effort.

[NUKE]

Go to Steve's mssg. Hit the "quote" button. Copy the text. Go to your post. Hit the "modify" button. Paste in the quote. It'll save Steve the effort.

That's too much work for me, I'd rather have Steve do the work.

[DiabloTX]

Ok, but that leaves a question about which version we will play.  V1, 2, 3, 3.5, or 4?

[NUKE]

Hey Laz

When guys like you were out riding crappy bikes, doing drugs, losing limbs and just being scum in general,  guys like me were playing a game that required some basic intelligence and having good clean fun.

You learned your life lessons the hard way, because you were stupid. Now you play a computer game and talk to people from your computer in your old age.

Also, you seem to like space cowboys, like in Firefly. Do you dress up as a space cowboy when watching Firefly?

[Arlo]

Hey now .... don't make fun of my brown coat! Whoops! Yeah, Lazs! What he said! ;0)

[lazs2]

now this is getting funny.. the only people using the words hate and manly are the princesses and elves.

pongo.. because I have an passing observation that means I have given "a lot of thought to it"?   really.. what appears to be silly on the surface..  the whole sword and sorcery thing is.. just silly on all levels.

Anyone who doesn't like the fantasy genre lacks imagination?  My but you princesses are full of yourselves eh?

there are all sorts of ways to escape.. we all escape into our own heads.  you can do it on a long drive or ride.. but.. you get some fresh air and meet real people.

You can read books or watch film or work on things.. you can play all sorts of games.  I play AH about 15 hours a month for instance.  I have played way too much in the past tho.

My "opinion" is formed by the people I have met who played DD..  back when and.. the current princess and sorcery "worlds"  some guys who play AH are into that now.. they tried to convince me that I would like it..  I watched em play.. it is beyond boring..

If the only benny you guys ever got from DD was that it "stretched your imagination" then.. you were pretty pitiful in that department anyway.. life will stretch your imagination.. read a good book.. one where you might even learn something..  I don't care to know how to kill an elf or troll..  I don't want to know how to save a princess that is in reality... a 200 pound zit faced 5'2" guy.

DD.. sword and sorcery is only a genre.. it is not the entire universe of imagination..  it is not even a particularly fertile one or worthwhile one.   It requires more effort than it is worth..  unless you make money on it say. 

It is a matter of economy..  you guys spent too much of your free time on something of little or no imaginative or.. any other.. value.

lazs

[NUKE]

It is a matter of economy..  you guys spent too much of your free time on something of little or no imaginative or.. any other.. value.

lazs

And you spent your time breathing fresh air, losing limbs, running drugs, doing drugs, and just being a scumbag thug by your own admission. No imagination, no value, and good for nothing. You're funny. Most of your old friends are dead or in prison because of  that great  life style.

Funny that you would make fun of people who just played a game and then try to say that you grew up doing worthwhile things.

[mg1942]

DD may have potentially saved some people... especially teens in the 1980s and early 90s when most people at that time were doing...

drugs/alcohol/cigarettes 
selling drugs
joining gangs
unprotected sex (therefore getting AIDS)
gangbanging
hustlin'
pimpin'

....and various activities like htese. 

As long as geeks do their "thing" (be it playing D&D, doing computer programing at home, cosplaying, going to Star Trek conventions ) and do well in school... life's good.  I would rather see these people exercise their brains with DD than let it waste away by doing the activities mentioned above.

PS: My anti-drug during the 90s was basketball.  To me it served the same purpose as DD.  I studied and applied some of the signature moves from Magic Johnson, Dr J (Julius Erving), Larry Bird, and Michael Jordan in my play

And lasz~  I can't believe this guy... still insisting that anime/manga is "akin to pedfiles".  Anime and manga is simply a Japanese Entertainment-Industrial Complex that serves the same purpose as HOLLYWOOD.  You've been debunked many times over this.

[lazs2]

nuke.. there is nothing wrong with using your imagination outdoors.. it is no less good for you than dressing up like a princess in some basement and learning what spells to cast to get some armor or some such.

It might even be a little more of a stretch of the old noggin to learn to get along with men (and even women!!!) who don't think exactly like you.. who may even have a predispositon to dislike you... It might teach you to use your imagination when talking to real people instead of pretend elves and trolls and.. fat guys pretending to be a princess.

It may be worthwhile to learn some outdoor skills instead.

Now.. I am not saying that a tiny little fraction of the princesses and elves did not do something worthwhile.. learned programing or whatever but they sure didn't need the game to do that.

mg42..  I never insisted on anything.. I just pointed out the obvious that any man who is into seeing cartoons where the characters are childlike with large breasts and objects of sexual attraction are... by defenition... pedophiles..

I was told in the thread that I was wrong about the characters in anime and to prove it... I was treated to dozens of pics of children with big boobs who were the center of adult male lust.    your avatar for one as a sidenote.

lazs

[AWMac]

nuke.. there is nothing wrong with using your imagination outdoors.. it is no less good for you than dressing up like a princess in some basement and learning what spells to cast to get some armor or some such. *or flight sim pilit*

It might even be a little more of a stretch of the old noggin to learn to get along with men (and even women!!!) who don't think exactly like you.. who may even have a predispositon to dislike you... It might teach you to use your imagination when talking to real people instead of pretend elves and trolls and.. fat guys pretending to be a princess. *or N00Bs, Dweebs or Squeakers*

It may be worthwhile to learn some outdoor skills instead. *GV's ?*

Now.. I am not saying that a tiny little fraction of the princesses and elves did not do something worthwhile.. learned programing or whatever but they sure didn't need the game to do that. *Join Mission!!!*

mg42..  I never insisted on anything.. I just pointed out the obvious that any man who is into seeing cartoons where the characters are childlike with large breasts and objects of sexual attraction are... by defenition... pedophiles..  *Dammit Jim, I'm a Cartoon Pilit.*

I was told in the thread that I was wrong about the characters in anime and to prove it... I was treated to dozens of pics of children with big boobs who were the center of adult male lust.    your avatar for one as a sidenote.  *savin Perk Points for a ME 262*

lazs

just some fun added in red

"Attention Ladies and Gentlemen the Dragon has left the Dungeon."

*tongue in cheek humor, that is all*

[DrDea]

 This whole beating up on D&D kinda reminds me of something that happened at the AW 2001 CON.There was a group at the hotel at the same time for some RPG game.When one of them would walk around with their arms crossed over their chests they were in their game "Invisable"  I remember one of the idiots we had playing AW at the time bumping into a guy and saying "I didnt see you."  Funny thing,A guy pretending to be an Ace from WW2 busting on a guy pretending to be invisableOh the irony.

[Urchin]

I remember hearing about that at the 2002 AH con.  I thought it was hilarious, actually

[Shaky]

Hmmm...lets see...

Everyone knows D&D...
Who remembers,Top Secret, Gamma World, Champions?