My Love/Hate with the Lightning

[HighGTrn]

Well, its been interesting to say the least.  After digesting all this info and spending time in the TA pushing my J to the envelope, I logged into the MA last night and had a lot of fun.  The first thing I did was check my ego at the door and completely put scores out of my mind.  Once in this mindset, I really was able to fortify everything I learned.  Last but not least, I was actually having fun in my J.

Did I get killed a lot?  Yes I did get shot down but not as nearly as much as a week ago.  ACM is ACM but flying a J in a high target rich environment really reminds you of your limitations.  Once I understood that there are things I can absolutely do vs. things I should not even think about, the rest was second nature.  In fact, most of the times I got killed was not when I was doing my thing.  The majority of my deaths were a result of putting myself into a bad situation trying to save a squadie or two.

To show you how difficult it is to master a 38, I will use an example from last night.  I had to take off from a CV to help with a base take.  Since the Essex class carriers did not provide me with a 38, I went to my fall back plane which was the 1A Hog.  In one sortie, I quickly dispatched 3 kills in a furball.  Flying the Hog after flying the J was MUCH easier.  As for the J, I'm HOOKED!

S1n1ster

[Guppy35]

hehe yeah dan I need lessons on how to progress on from "helpless flopper."

oh, and I need to show you the film of me and mensa winging and inpersonating "auto-climbing" with you, which I hear, is the complete opposite of a autoclimb.

donkey

Just cause I'm always dipping the wings to look around...Sheesh!

[Guppy35]

Well, its been interesting to say the least.  After digesting all this info and spending time in the TA pushing my J to the envelope, I logged into the MA last night and had a lot of fun.  The first thing I did was check my ego at the door and completely put scores out of my mind.  Once in this mindset, I really was able to fortify everything I learned.  Last but not least, I was actually having fun in my J.

Did I get killed a lot?  Yes I did get shot down but not as nearly as much as a week ago.  ACM is ACM but flying a J in a high target rich environment really reminds you of your limitations.  Once I understood that there are things I can absolutely do vs. things I should not even think about, the rest was second nature.  In fact, most of the times I got killed was not when I was doing my thing.  The majority of my deaths were a result of putting myself into a bad situation trying to save a squadie or two.

To show you how difficult it is to master a 38, I will use an example from last night.  I had to take off from a CV to help with a base take.  Since the Essex class carriers did not provide me with a 38, I went to my fall back plane which was the 1A Hog.  In one sortie, I quickly dispatched 3 kills in a furball.  Flying the Hog after flying the J was MUCH easier.  As for the J, I'm HOOKED!

S1n1ster

You've learned one of the major secrets of the 38 and AH.  If you can check the ego at the door and not worry about the score, you are much more likely to push yourself and take some risks, which can only lead to learning more along with dying alot.  Naturally I've got that last part down, but if you don't push it, and only fly 'safe', you'll never find the edges of the envelope.  And it's funny as hell to find yourself in the middle of 6-8 red planes all falling over themselves trying to shoot you down

[HighGTrn]

Corky,

Flying the 38 is like flying a big "shoot me first" sign on your forehead.  No matter where you are in the mix, everyone immediately locks on to you and tries to kill you.  Now this bring up a philosophical point.  I learned that in AH, you always wanted to engage the most dangerous threat first and then work your way down to the least dangerous threat last.  If this is the case, everyone must be scared to death of people flying the Lightning cause I know that I'm not the only who feels like a cheap date in Honolulu when the 7th Fleet arrives after 6 months at sea when I'm in the 38.

The flip side of the debate is that everyone thinks you are an easy kill so they pounce on you.  The first time I tangled with Del, my squadies certaintly thought that and the result was vastly different than what they expected.  I went immediately for him cause I was in a 38 and wanted to fight another 38.  After getting dispatched, I upped another 38 and went after him again. 

The sight I saw was pretty funny.  I took off into the direction I last saw him.  At a distance, I could see 5 or 6 dots hording this one single dot.  As I got closer, I saw one red icon in a sea of green icons.  What was funny was while the red icon was doing loops, rolls and turns, the green icons were blowing up and being vaporized.  He must have had his tracers off cause I never saw any shots, just people blowing up.  I was chuckling to myself hysterically while watching this unfold.  As I got into the fight, someone says "watchout, that's Delirium in that 38 (I knew it wasnt AKAK cause he was co-alt with everyone he was fighting). 


S1n1ster

[Guppy35]

To me, that's the fun of it.  I know that my 38G is going to be jumped.  I'd also like to think that folks are understanding that the majority of 38 drivers are up looking for a fight too.  Having flown with some great 38 sticks over the years I know how much fun it is to watch folks like Del, Lazer, Soulyss, Raptor, Murdr, AKAK etc dive into a brawl and come out the other side intact.  Someday I'll get there.

Funny thing with AKAK is the 38 drivers know that he's nasty fighting on the deck, but his reputation is that he's some sort of alt monkey.  I don't know that I've ever been to 10K flying with him, but then again he never says anything to deny his alt monkey tag.

There are some other guys who used to fly 38s more often that can really tear it up too.  Kappa comes to mind.  KillnU in his 38 days was great fun to watch.  The list goes on and on

[Ack-Ack]

I don't know that I've ever been to 10K flying with him, but then again he never says anything to deny his alt monkey tag.

Why bother?  People will believe what they want to believe, despite facts to the contrary. 

For example, the other night in the MW, I got into a fight with a Ki-61 that had 5,000ft advantage over me.  I got him on the reversal over shoot, first thing he does is call me an alt monkey HO on open channel.  So, again, why bother?

I might as well have fun with it.


ack-ack

[Geophro]

I warned AkAk that if he didn't stop killing me that I would post proof.
I only give 1 warning, yet he killed me several more times (I don't think that I ever pinged him).
So as promised:

That is not 381K by the way, you can't even see the curvature of the earth   

[DoNKeY]

To me, that's the fun of it.  I know that my 38G is going to be jumped.  I'd also like to think that folks are understanding that the majority of 38 drivers are up looking for a fight too.  Having flown with some great 38 sticks over the years I know how much fun it is to watch folks like Del, Lazer, Soulyss, Raptor, Murdr, AKAK etc dive into a brawl and come out the other side intact.  Someday I'll get there.

Funny thing with AKAK is the 38 drivers know that he's nasty fighting on the deck, but his reputation is that he's some sort of alt monkey.  I don't know that I've ever been to 10K flying with him, but then again he never says anything to deny his alt monkey tag.

There are some other guys who used to fly 38s more often that can really tear it up too.  Kappa comes to mind.  KillnU in his 38 days was great fun to watch.  The list goes on and on

Wait, kappa doesn't fly the 38 anymore?

donkey

[Guppy35]

Wait, kappa doesn't fly the 38 anymore?

donkey

Not a much as he used to.  I had to give him a hard time a while back cause he was landing kills in an LA7

109Ks, F4Us etc.  He's just killing in more planes then just the 38 these days

[DoNKeY]

Not a much as he used to.  I had to give him a hard time a while back cause he was landing kills in an LA7

109Ks, F4Us etc.  He's just killing in more planes then just the 38 these days

Got it.

donkey

[LEDPIG]

Funny thing with AKAK is the 38 drivers know that he's nasty fighting on the deck, but his reputation is that he's some sort of alt monkey.  I don't know that I've ever been to 10K flying with him, but then again he never says anything to deny his alt monkey tag.

Thats the funny thing too, i can't tell you how many times i've seen AKAK dive to the deck (we're squaddies in the 479th) and get into it, while i'm staying up high scared to death. Going AK your crazy...alot of the times he kills 4 or 5 of them and goes back too land. Maybe with one engine out or a little damage.

Then i hear people complaining that he's an alt monkey when he just dove into a pack of 5 enemy cons on the deck and came out alive.

You know what that boils down too..... Well it falls from cattle and be careful you don't step in it.

  ....AKAK.....

[Murdr]

I find it halarious that I was wingman with the acclaimed "P-38 alt monkey" of Air Warrior.  Once some guys went so far as to parady our squad site, complete with a picture of looking out over a moonscape from a 38 cockpit, with instructions that "when it looks like this, you're almost high enough".

So then I come here and squad up with the guy that has the upper level of the atmosphere named after him

[BnZ]

Well, I'm man enough to admit that if I'm sticking needles in an AKAK voodoo doll, it is because he is good in a P-38 and nearly impossible to deal with, especially while flying a 190A5. On the other hand, I love the guy when on the same side, he scares them so bad they often don't see little old me coming down 'em

The unvarnished Truth about flight sims: One can never win with a jury of one's peers, consisting of peeps you just shot down.

Kill a guy who doesn't see you, you are a "picker".

Kill a guy from any angle within 90 degrees of his nose, you a "ho tard".

Kill a guy in a more maneuverable plane using angles tactics, you are a "dweeb".

Kill a guy in a less manueverable plane using E tactics, you are an "alt monkey".

Kill a guy in a worse turning, worse climbing, slower plane with an alt disadvantage, you are a "HACKER"!!!

Players, for your own sanity, turn off the "Retarded Lemur Theatre" playing continously 200, try to do no talking and show no emotions to the enema, win or lose, and if you do loose, just pray to dark Cthulhu that the guy who just shot you down comes down with runny Leprosy and double Ebola. It does your heart just as much good as smack talk, and the unwary might actually be fooled into believing you are a nice guy and a good sport.

[Ack-Ack]

So then I come here and squad up with the guy that has the upper level of the atmosphere named after him

Admit it, you joined the 479th so you could visit my super cool space station.  Chicks dig guys that live in space stations.


ack-ack

[Hazard69]

The unvarnished Truth about flight sims: One can never win with a jury of one's peers, consisting of peeps you just shot down.

Kill a guy who doesn't see you, you are a "picker".

Kill a guy from any angle within 90 degrees of his nose, you a "ho tard".

Kill a guy in a more maneuverable plane using angles tactics, you are a "dweeb".

Kill a guy in a less manueverable plane using E tactics, you are an "alt monkey".

Kill a guy in a worse turning, worse climbing, slower plane with an alt disadvantage, you are a "HACKER"!!!

That is just sooo true