MAJOR FSO issue, ALL READ!

[Sled]

OK guys, this has been a building problem for the last few events, but in this last event, it got REALY BAD. 


We have GOT to maintain better control over our squad numbers at the start of the event. We had 8 squads that were grossly out of their number commitments as listed on the AH events site. Including my own squad, so I am griping at myself here too.

The following squads were the offenders. I know some of these squads may have moved players to a different squad so they would stay in numbers. If that is you then please disregard this, and thank you. However, the people that got moved still show as members of your squad.

Also, some of the squads have made changes to their numbers for the upcoming event, they show in Bold. The squads that show Italicized need to still change their numbers.


USMC / 71sqn (16-21)  Frm 1 = 15, Frm 2 = 13, Frm 3 = 13

LCA (11-15) Frm 1 = 18, Frm 2 = 19 Frm 3 = 20

Fate (11-15) Frm 1 = 8, Frm 2 = 8, Frm 3 = 6

31st FG (16-21) Frm 1 = 13, Frm 2 = 12, Frm 3 = 8

367th Dynamite gang (4-6) Frm 1 = 8, Frm 2 = 16, Frm 3 = 17,  I am guessing recruitment was good.

Unfrogiven (16-21) Frm 1 = 11, Frm 2 = 13, Frm 3 = 19

55fg Velociraptors Frm 1 = 0, Frm 2 = 5, Frm 3 = 9

353rd FG (7-10) Frm 1 = 14, Frm 2 = 14, Frm 3 = 11.


I don't know what else to say but, that is not good. it is really hard to run an event with controlled numbers when the numbers are out of control.

I know that deciding on a commitment number for your squad is very difficult. A lot of squad members only come every couple of weeks, and no one wants to say "No room" when they show up, But sometimes that is the way it has got to be.

It is better to guess low on your numbers, as it is easier to turn people away, than it is to try to find people to fill spots. Also, once the sides are chosen for an event you can not change your numbers until that next event sign up.



I don't want to get to a situation where I am going to have to start removing squads from FSO for repeated numbers violations. But that is what will have to happen if this continues.


Please feel free to post any explanations and comments.

[snowey]

sory but a couple of us were sick and had strict parents the last one was that one person joined when we didnt need him small eror

[Sled]

sory but a couple of us were sick and had strict parents the last one was that one person joined when we didnt need him small eror

I Don't know what squad you are in Snowey.

[Husky01]

55fg Velociraptors Sled.

[daddog]

No excuse for squads being over their numbers. I can’t count the times I have some of my guys sit out or ride shotgun (observer) when we have been over our numbers. Sure you might have one or two too many once and a while that slip by, but that should be all we see in FSO. Zero tolerance.

Low numbers are another story. It can be much harder for a squad to have control of that. Sometimes you just have a night where lots of guys are working, sick, tired, not interested in that particular FSO, or just doing some family stuff. Flexibility on the part  of the CM team with squads that have low numbers is understandable.

High numbers. No excuse.

[Sled]

No excuse for squads being over their numbers. I can’t count the times I have some of my guys sit out or ride shotgun (observer) when we have been over our numbers. Sure you might have one or two too many once and a while that slip by, but that should be all we see in FSO. Zero tolerance.

Low numbers are another story. It can be much harder for a squad to have control of that. Sometimes you just have a night where lots of guys are working, sick, tired, not interested in that particular FSO, or just doing some family stuff. Flexibility on the part  of the CM team with squads that have low numbers is understandable.

High numbers. No excuse.

I have to agree. Major over number violations can not be tolerated.

[snowey]

the worst part about it was that the extra person was zoozoo i nearly killed my self so did homer

[Shifty]

Sorry we've had a huge recruiting boom since TheBug figured out what the soap was really for.

[Redlegs]

the worst part about it was that the extra person was zoozoo i nearly killed my self so did homer

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 

[ghostdancer]

Remember squads if you have more pilots shows up than you can field, get on the horn to the other squads on your side. CMs in the past have never had a problem with you taking your overage and having them fly under another squads colors who hasn't maxed out.

So if you get more pilots showing up than you expected .. get on the country channel and say .. my squads has two guys to many, could any other squad use them?

It keeps your numbers in line and most likely will help another squad that might be very, very low on numbers. Basically a win, win.

[REP0MAN]

GhostDancer is right.

I, as a Setup CM, will never have a problem with squads that are over their commitment level sharing their pilots with another registered squad who is under. That is a great way to alleviate some of the frame by frame attendance issues. It just makes sense.

On a side note, SLED, I'll update the level for the UNFORGIVEN and have a chat with the squad about attendance. I was not part of the command structure on the last event, so I'm not sure why we were so far under numbers the first two frames. We apologize and will work to alleviate any further issues. 

[DakOne]

Sorry Sled. Miscommunication betewwn Pez and myself. I thought we had already up our numbers. My fault.

[forHIM]

Remember,

commitment level is for the entire set of frames.  So what GD sees this weekend on the ahevents.org site as commitment level is what you are stuck with for the entire March event.  No changes mid-stream.


edit:  nevermind GD already assigned sides.  Any changes now would have to get both SLED and GD's approval.

[daddog]

Gents,

I just want to say that Sled has really cut you guys some slack. It is important for your future participation in FSO that you get your numbers under control and keep them under control. Especially when he has guys like me telling him to boot em. He does not want to drop any squads from FSO, but I know he will next round should someone be way over with their numbers again, especially once you have been warned. He is nicer about this than I ever was.

I would rather have 250 in FSO who are on top of things than 350 who don’t allow CM’s to balance sides because squad numbers are always out of wack. That hurts the event for everyone.

[Imoutfishing]

I simply say,

This has not been an issue for years.  What has changed?

MGD