Suicide bombers and why

[hubsonfire]

Give us the name, Lynx. It violates no forum rules to post the stats of another player. 

[Lusche]

Would you be staggered to know his bombing hit percent was just (Image removed from quote.)  60.63.

On a side note, if there is any single stat that is completely insignificant, it's bombing hit%.
It does not indicate how precise/skillful you can bomb, but only that you know which targets to attack - and which not. Not that hard to hit a cluster of city buildings...

I'm not disesteem stats at all, but this one I do. (Unless it's at 0.0% )

[Bruv119]

I think your slighty off on his teammates giving him a wtg.  I think the squad in question like to win the war and will do anything to defend or attack a base.  If its about getting things done and quickly they are very good at it.

There is very little in praise from the Bish.  Most stuff on country is kids planning where to attack next and once you've squelched them all it can be pretty quiet !

[Tilt]

They do it because it works.

Thats the reason............... basically the gameplay objectives encourage it and the general gameplay model permits it.

There will always be someone pushing this particular "envelope"............... I believe some (not all) of the corrective measures can be found in my sig.

Start by perking bombs............. oops my sig has dissappeared............ only just noticed!

[LYNX]

Give us the name, Lynx. It violates no forum rules to post the stats of another player. 

 

[CAP1]

Seriously, try it at 8K. It doesn't matter where or when they turn it, it's almost always too late for the CV. IMO, it's too easy to sink.

i've always done 10k for cv's...for some reason, it just seems easier to get a good lead on them from that alt.......when i go lower, it also seems as though the ack tears me up fairly bad........

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[The Fugitive]

<edit> With regards to the limit-to-F6 mode, a simple macro negates that. O, X, F6, B. Doors open, autopilot engages, switch to bombardier's position, autopilot engaged, bombs away. Although HTC did change things so you could no longer calibrate from the pilot's seat for laser accuracy, this change would not have any significant effect on the suicide bombers, since autopilot no longer causes a violent change to level flight.

Sure a macro is great, but one would think that a B17 diving at a 45 degree angle doing 300+ would rip his wings off the second he tried to "snap" to level with the macro. You get the same end result, dead dweeb   

[CAP1]

Hmmm I've got a few educated guesses whose those scores could be 

I hate the guys who come over in bombers, drop on the base (usually miss and leave a cratered runway)  then bail out.  Not only do they achieve nothing but no-one gets to kill them.  Even worse would be an experienced bomber levelling the fighter hangars then bailing.

From your screenshot I would be asking more questions about the 5 inch gunner.  There is no way a set of buffs should be able to get that near a CV with a decent gunner on board.

i thought HTC did some kind of fix that made it so that if you dropped ords, then bailed right away, that nothing happened?

[Lusche]

i thought HTC did some kind of fix that made it so that if you dropped ords, then bailed right away, that nothing happened?

No.

[Yossarian]

I've bombed CVs at low-level before, but I have never rammed the CV or similar before.  I know it's gamey and really annoying to a minority (I think) of others, but overall, the aim of this game is to win the war.  If people are so dedicated against these sorts of tactics, people should have better defences around their CVs, i.e. orbit it in an F4U or similar.

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Yossarian

P.S. I rarely fly buffs anyway, when I do it's usually for a high-medium alt mission.  And I can only remember doing the above twice before, and one of those was successful.

[ROX]

I only go in to cv groups with heavy P-47's and Stukas with 1800kg bomb.  Even then, it's a crapshoot on getting through the ack.

Bet it's tough to get 17's that close.  Wish I was the one in the 5" when it happens.



ROX

[VansCrew1]

We would not have to worry about most suicide bombers if HTC made the CV's stronger. 8000lbs is no were colse enough. in reality CV's could sail back to port with a huge deal of damage.

[LYNX]

I think your slighty off on his teammates giving him a wtg.  I think the squad in question like to win the war and will do anything to defend or attack a base.  If its about getting things done and quickly they are very good at it.

There is very little in praise from the Bish.  Most stuff on country is kids planning where to attack next and once you've squelched them all it can be pretty quiet !

Don't get me wrong Bruv.  I posted those stats in reference to Uptowns reply about it being sqeekers. Irrespective of weather you can work out who these 2 individuals are or not, I'm not after a particular person or squad.   The points i'm trying to bring to discussion are :-

Why do they do it?
Who does it ? 
What can we do about it?

If I was captain capable and everyone would be pleased I'm not.  I would make it that if an individual lost 4 bombers inside a 20 minute cycle no more freakin bombers for that guy for 1 hour.  Draconian ? to right mate but I ain't the boss.  Would I settle for the wing snapping F6 view...yes.  Don't think that'll happen though because these "players", left with little to no importance to their team, would leave.  I think my only option is never to encourage or condone this type of action.  It's limited I know but the practicalities of a geek at a puter are limited.....

[Bruv119]

I don't think people would leave if they were prevented from doing it.

They would find the next easiest way to kill a CV or learn to level bomb.  If they do the latter I guess you would have achieved your goal.  People will adapt to whatever suits them.

[IrishOne]

dive bombing in LEVEL bombers is ridiculous.  it's pretty rare too see a bunch of vals or SBD's diving on a cv from 10K.  i think it would be way more fun if ppl actually used the DIVE bombers to dive bomb.  but, i guess that means u need friends to fly the extra planes, and it would take an extra sortie or two.  but hey kiddies, i understand u only have time for 1 run!  when mom says it's time to go, it's time to go...