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Offline Adonai

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Your Favourite Ace Story
« on: March 07, 2008, 10:05:15 AM »
I've been reading some old books lately, and came across some really good stories about Ira Kepford.

Here are two of Ira Kepford an F4u Pilot with VF-17 I found interesting not only in what he did to survive,
but I was interested to know just how accurate our flight model is in game.

But then he saw many, many dots, high above him and in between him and Bougainville. He hoped to remain inconspicuous, but four Zeros peeled off to attack him. Unwilling to fight the whole group, he turned north to escape them, but the four pursuers came on fast, with their tremendous altitude advantage. As the lead Zero came on fast and opened fire, Kepford decided to "go for broke." He dropped his flaps and landing gear and nosed down until he was skimming the waves; as the Zero roared over him, he pulled his Hog's nose up and opened fire. The Zero's stabilizer crumpled under the snapshot, and the plane crashed into the waves. As Kepford pulled in his gear and flaps, the remaining Zeros bracketed him . . . he was facing 3-to-1 odds, low and slow, and he was heading back in the direction of Rabaul.
The other three Zeros spread out behind him, boxing him in, and continued to gain. Tracers streaked by! It was time to use the newly installed water injection "War Emergency Power" WEP, a temporary boost to the Pratt & Whitney R-2800 engine. The Jap planes stayed with him, scoring some hits on the F4U. He was really trapped at this point, unable to turn because of the Zeros behind, and forced to continue speeding north, while not gaining appreciably.

One other thing I found really amazing -

Kepford downed four enemy aircraft, for which he was awarded the Navy Cross. Flying cover for the carriers in Roger Hedrick's flight, he lit into a gaggle of Kates. Flying through Bunker Hill's intense AA, he downed a Kate only 1,000 yards from the ship

This was taken from a website www.acespilots.com

Now I've seen some film footage of carrier Ack and its truely brutal, for him to risk certain death and especially at 1000 yards, fly into
his own CV Ack.

I don't think I need to say more, sure those sailors on the CV was quite happy to get him cup of coffee  :aok

Anyone else know of Ace exploits they can comment on?

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Re: Your Favourite Ace Story
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2008, 10:53:48 AM »
Nice post. Not sure if any of the pilots involved in this were aces but the history channel ran a piece on kamikazi attacks and one of the features was about a destroyer or maybe it was a cruiser under attack. The friendly pilots that showed up repeatedly flew into there own ack while fighting the enemy. :O Those guys had some nads of steel. :aok

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Re: Your Favourite Ace Story
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2008, 04:23:08 PM »
One of my favorites:

Lt. Col. Francis S. "Gabby" Gabreski
Scored 28 kills with 56th Fighter Group in WWII, POW
Downed 6.5 MiGs over Korea, CO of 4th FIW and 51st FIW

Primarily flew the P-47.

Almost got washed out of flight school (twice):
After these preliminaries, he went to East St. Louis, for primary flight training at Parks Air College, a civilian program that the Army used for its novice cadets. Here they flew Stearman PT-17 biplanes and Fairchild PT-19 low-wing monoplanes. Gabreski struggled through primary training, barely avoiding being washed out in the "Elimination Flight" described above. But he passed, got a new instructor and in November 1940 completed primary flight training.


Later in his career:
On May 22, 1944, Gabreski shot down three Fw 190s over a Luftwaffe airfield in northwest Germany. He tied Johnson as the leading ace in the European Theater of Operations on June 27 (passing Eddie Rickenbacker's record from World War I in the process), and on July 5, 1944, became America's leading ace, with 28 destroyed. This total was never surpassed by any U.S. pilot fighting the Luftwaffe.

All of his WW2 victories were in the P47D.
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Re: Your Favourite Ace Story
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2008, 05:10:34 PM »
The ships, sailors, and aircrew of Taffy 3.  Quite a number of those pilots didn't have anything bigger than a pistol round to fight with, but they flew down the throats of the IJN anti-aircraft gunners to distract them and give the aircraft with something to shoot a better chance of getting through.
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Re: Your Favourite Ace Story
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2008, 06:54:22 PM »
Here is a humorous little informal AAR by Tom McGuire as told to, and recounted by, General George Kenny....

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"You see, General," said Tommy (McGuire), "that Fourty-ninth gang up at Tacloban didnt want Dick (Bong) going along with them any more, as he was stealing too many Nips from them, so he came down here to see if we would let him fly with the 475th. We figured we were good enough so we could take care of our own interests along that line, so we said it would be okay. This morning he saw me getting ready to take off for a look at the Jap fields over on Mindanno and suggested that he go along. I had a hunch I shouldnt have let him come with me, but I had to be polite, so I gave in. We picked up a wingman apiece and took off.

"we cruised all over the island looking for something to shoot at, but the bombers and strafers have about cleaned the place out. We had just decided to call it off and go home when we spotted a couple of Oscars just ahead of us, near Pamubulon Island, flying low just over the treetops. There were on my side and I figured mabey Dick hadnt seen them so I barely whispered over the radio to my wingman to follow me and I dive to take one of the Nips. One nice burst, and down he goes. I turn to knock off the other Oscar but this eavesdropping Bong (motioning to Dick who was now sitting across the tent grinning) had heard me talking to my wingman and had located the Nip. Before I could get in position, I saw him blow up and Bong pulls up alongside of me waggling his wings and grinning at me, like the highway robber he is. That makes him thirty-nine and me thirty-one. Im still eight behind. I bet when this war is over, they'll call me Eight Behind McGuire."

Two days later they patroled together again, and both scored an Oscar apiece again, after which Bong was pulled from combat.

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Re: Your Favourite Ace Story
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2008, 06:58:24 PM »
Puck that's the one i was thinking of. They were flying down the throats of the aa from taffy 3 pursueing the japanese kamikazi pilots to disrupt there fatal dives. There were no IJN ships involved in that encounter at all if i remember correctly. Be that as it may, anyone flying into ack like that whether it is friendly or enemy has got some steel nadz.

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Re: Your Favourite Ace Story
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2008, 07:11:20 PM »
From 'The Blond Knight of Germany', a biography of Erich Hartmann.

"The Sormovik sagged, shuddered and flared alight from nose to tail. Erich pulled up hard over the stricken Il-2, ready to swing back into the other ground-strafing Stormoviks. Explosions like backfires banged and jarred under the fuselage of Karaya One. Erich saw one of his engine doors fly off and whip away astern in the slipstream. Choking blue smoke came belching back into the cockpit.

He was talking aloud to himself again. "What in hell has happened, Erich? Flak, ground fire, stray shells from the air battle? Which? Never mind! Get out of here and head west while you can. Quick! Before this damned bird goes in." He made a steep turn to the west and pulled his throttle back. Ignition and fuel switches off. "Yes, she's going in. But where? There's a field, a large one, lots of sunflowers.... head for it. Ease here down... ease her down, Erich... just like the gliders your mother taught you to fly."

The fighter came down easily, and bucked its way to a halt with a grinding of metal. Erich would walk away from this one. He unbuckled his parachute and made ready to leave the "bent" fighter. Reaching forward to the instrument panel, he began undoing the retaining studs on the aircraft clock. Standing orders required all pilots surviving belly landings to take these precision instruments with them, since the clocks were in short supply.

Struggling with the milled studs that anchored the clock, Erich felt a little let-down from the action. "Damn it, Erich. You didn't get any breakfast this morning-" he broke off his monologue as a movement caught his eye through the dusty windshield. A German truck  came rumbling into view. He felt relieved. He didnt know how far he had flown west before the belly landing, but the German truck was reassuring. Luftwaffe pilots landing behind Soviet lines were seldom heard from again. He went on battling with the clock, and glanced up as he heard the truck brakes squeal. He did an alarmed double take.

Two hulking soldiers jumped down from the truck bed wearing a strange looking uniform. German infantrymen wore green-gray tunics. These soldiers were clad in yellow-gray uniforms. Then the two men turned in the direction of the crashed fighter and Erich felt his skin crawl with fear. The faces were Asiatic.

These Russians were using a captured German truck, and now they were about to capture a German to go with it. Erich broke out in a cold sweat as the two Russians approached. If he tried to get out and and escape, they would shoot him down. Only one choice remained. He must feign injury. He would decieve them into thinking he had been injured internally in a crash landing."

Quick thinking on Hartmann's part. But, it gets better-

"He feigned unconsciousness as the soldiers jumped on the wing and gawked into the cockpit. One of them reached down under his armpits and tried to lift Erich out. The russian smelled sickeningly sour. Erich cried out with pain, and kept crying and sobbing. The Russian let go of him. The two men jabbered in Russian and then called to Erich, "Comrade, comrade. The war is finished, Hitler is finished. It doesnt matter now" (this is 1943 mind you-)

"I am wounded" Sobbed the Blond Knight, pointing to his abdomen with his right hand and cradling it with his left. Through lowered lids, Erich could see they had swallowed the bait.

The Russian carefully helped him out of the cockpit, while Erich blubbered and sobbed through an Acadmy Award performance. He fell on the ground, 'unable' to stand up. The Russians went back to the truck, got an old tent, and laid the 'wounded' pilot on the folded canves. They toted him over to the truck like a bundle of wet washing and laid him out carefully on the truck bed.

The soldiers tried talking quietly to Erich, in friendly fashion. Their mood was happy, because last night's action had won them a big victory. Erich kept on groaning and clutching at his belly. Exasperated and unable to alleviate his 'pain', the Russians finaly got back in the truck and drove him to their HQ in a nearby village.

A doctor appeared. He could speak a few German words, and he tried to make an examination. The physician stank of a sour perfume. Every tiem he touched Erich, the Blond Knight cried out. Even the doctor was convinced. His captors brought him to some fruit, and he made as though to eat it. Then he cried out again, as though some penetrating strain had been placed on his organism by the act of biting.

For two hours the theater continued. Then the same to soldiers came again, laid him out on the tent and carted him back to the truck. As they went jolting eastward back behind the Russian lines, Erich knew he would have to make a break-and soon-or spend the rest of the war in a Soviet prison. He weighed the situation. The truck had gone about two miles back into Russian territory. one soldier was driving, the other was in the bed guarding the injured German Captive. As Erich's thoughts raced, from the western sky came the chararcteristic whining roar of Stukas.

The German dive bombers passed low overhead, and the truck slowed, ready to ditch. As the guard in the back of the truck stared apprehensively upward, Erich sprang to his feet and charged the Russian with his shoulder. THe guard slammed into the back of the cab with his head and collapsed in the truck bed.

Dropping off the tail gate, Erich went bolting into a field of man-high sunflowers beside the road. As he made their cover, screeshing truck brakes told him his escape had been discovered. Pluning and staggering deeper and deeper into the sea of sunflowers, Erich heard the crash of rifle fire and the whine of bullets as his captors fired at the waving indications of his passage...."

Erich eventually made it back to 9./JG52 the next day to score a couple hundred more kills before the war's end.

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Re: Your Favourite Ace Story
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2008, 09:49:17 PM »
"Not my time to die"- Robert Johnson's story about being shot out of formation, then limping home only to be assaulted by an FW-190.  Time and again the 190 got behind the helpless Thunderbolt and pounded it mercilessly, but failed to bring him down.

The Thunderbolt brought Bob home, with over 300 holes in it (including one that jammed the canopy shut).
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Re: Your Favourite Ace Story
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2008, 12:07:17 AM »
From Edwards Park's book "Nanette".  My inspiration for Guppy35 and CorkyJr

""Back on the ground at Dobo, we found two P38s parked near the alert shack.  They had dropped in to refuel and since there was rain over the mountains they had decided not to return to Morseby until morning.  One of the pilots was Guppy.

We hadn't kept in very close touch with Guppy since he'd been sent of to Madam Squadron to learn to fly P-38s.  He had dropped in a couple of times to tell us how much he liked them.  This time Steve and I greeted him with a certain awe because we'd heard he'd downed an enemy plane in the big raid.

'Didja really get one Guppy?' Steve asked.
'I got one.'
'You Golly-gee butcher!'

We learned that he had flown blindly along beside his flight leader, scared senseless, and had suddenly seen a small brightly colored plane, much daintier and prettier then anything he had seen before, right in front of him.  He had pressed his trigger convulsively, and it had blown up with a great flash.

'Are you sure it was a nip?' I asked.
'Of course i'm not sure.' Guppy said.  'I haven't been sure of anything since I got to this terrible place."

He said his flight leader seemed to think he'd done well, so he guessed it really was  a Nip.

"how did you feel about it?" I asked

"I shook alot when I got back on the ground."

Guppy said he liked flying Lightnings, but he didn'l like exchanging shots with other planes.  It seemed to him insanely dangerous.  He had made up his mind to get sent home somehow.  He hadn't figured out the way, but he would."

Guppy was with the 39th FS and Park was with the 41st FS both of the 35th FGs.

Guppy35 is from him.
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Re: Your Favourite Ace Story
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2008, 09:23:47 AM »
From the book Horrido by Toliver and Constable

Colonel Dieter Hrabak,Kommodor of JG52,credited with 125 victories led his schwarm of 4 ME109's against a lone IL2 Stormovik,
emptying their guns at the hapless plane from point blank range, and "iron Ivan" continued to fly on unfazed. Over the r/t he asked his men why they could not bring down 1 Russian aircraft between 4 experienced Luftwaffe pilots. One intuitive pilot relied: "Herr Oberst, you cannot bite a porcupine on its ass!
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Re: Your Favourite Ace Story
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2008, 11:37:16 AM »
Colonel ROYCE W. PRIEST
"Deacon" Priest arrived in England in May 1944, assigned to the 355th Fighter Group. Flying the P-51, combat missions comprised long-range escort, and intensive low-level ground attack. In August he landed behind the lines to pick up his C.O. downed by Ack-Ack fire. Within 6 months of his arrival in Europe he became an Ace, taking his fifth Luftwaffe fighter.

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So there I am in the mid' 70's at the NAS Dallas Aero Club, off-duty, just hanging around and some guy says to this other gentleman, "Yeah Deac, your plane is ready."

So I asked the fellow if I could go along for the ride in the C-172 he was taking out for some local flying. He said, "Sure."

We climb out and start chit-chatting. He asked if I was a Marine and I said yeah. I asked if he'd been in the service, and he said yeah, fighter pilot, going back to WWII.

My interest piqued, I blurted out one of the group numbers I could remember off the top of my head, "356th?" He was surprised I even knew about group numbers, his eyes lit up, he smiled and said, "355th!."

I chuckled and asked if he'd shot any down. "Yeah," he said, "I shot down seven, but they only gave me credit for five. But I got the other two."

By then I was grinning pretty hard. I could see in his eyes flashbacks to the glory days in the P-51. He starts giving me a lesson on climb-out. "Always know where you are relative to your base. You might have to make an emergency landing."

Then he starts to show me some maneuvers, but rookie that I am, I start to get nauseated. So after a little while more I asked if we could rtb. We landed, he let me off, taxied back out and took off.

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Re: Your Favourite Ace Story
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2008, 05:12:21 PM »
Mine is Donald S. Lopez

I was very lucky and had a chance to see him speak at the Stephen F. Udvar Hazy Center(Air and space Museum next to Dulles Airport in Virginia) where his p40 "Lope's Hope" Can be seen there.

He was assigned to the 23rd Fighter group, Formed from the Flying Tigers AVG under Lt.Gen Chennault.

I believe scored 4 kills in a p40e and one in a p51.

His first encounter with the enemy plane is a famous one. He made a head on pass with a Zero, the two planes kept the attack so long their wings collided. the p40's wing tip hit the middle of the zeros chopping the wing off.




He wrote and published two books "Into the Teeth of the Tiger" and "Fighter Pilot's Heaven: Flight Testing the Early Jets" 

Donald Lopez died from a heart attack on March 3, 2008.
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Re: Your Favourite Ace Story
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2008, 09:01:20 AM »
Puck that's the one i was thinking of. They were flying down the throats of the aa from taffy 3 pursueing the japanese kamikazi pilots to disrupt there fatal dives. There were no IJN ships involved in that encounter at all if i remember correctly. Be that as it may, anyone flying into ack like that whether it is friendly or enemy has got some steel nadz.

Um...I think we're talking about different events.  The kamakazi attack that cost the St. Lo (CVE 63) came after the real battle.

October 25th, 1944 the Central Force of the IJN fleet engaged the ships of Taffy 3 (task unit 77.4.3) with direct naval gunfire from numerous cruisers and battleships, including the Yamato.  The USS Gambier Bay (CVE 73) was the first and to date only aircraft carrier ever sunk by direct gunfire in battle.  The USS Johnson (DD 557) commanded by Ernest E. Evans (who was awarded a posthumous Medal of Honor), the USS Hoel (DD 553) and the USS Samuel Roberts (DDE 413) were also lost defending the task force against insurmountably superior odds after taking the battle right up to the enemy in a (successful) attempt to engage the Japanese heavy ships with torpedoes and 5" gunfire.

In the mean time the airmen of Taffy 3 did everything possible to engage the Japanese fleet and buy time for either Halsey's fast carrier strike force or Oldendorf's Battleships, neither of which could be arsed to help.  The survivors from the three sunken destroyers were left in the water for several days as shark bait before being picked up.

All in all, were it not for a Congresscritter named Carl Vinson Admiral Halsey would never have seen that fifth star in part because of this inexcusable blunder (The World Wonders).  That same Congresscritter blocked all efforts to give Spruance a fifth star.  This is in large part why I always spit on the Carl Vinson any time I had reason to go aboard, and I had several.  Meaningless theatrics, but that's what I think of Carl Vinson.

Taffy 3 was awarded a PUC, then the whole battle was quickly and quietly buried to protect Halsey's reputation.

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This reads like I believe Halsey was an incompetent boob, which is far from the truth.  However, given a choice between a Halsey, who got the nickname "Bull" for a reason, and Spruance, who was scary smart, never lost a battle, and never took a risk that didn't need taking, Halsey wouldn't be my first choice.  Second by two typhoons and one seriously bad call in the middle of a major operation.
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