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Offline Majors

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B-25's
« on: March 09, 2008, 10:27:06 AM »
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Since we now have B-25C and H.  Wonder if HT could develop skip bombs (500lb with 3 second fuse) and parafrags for low level missions against shiips and airfields.  This was B-25's primary missions in the Pacific.

Would be fun and new aspect to low level bombing.  Now we have to pull up to 1500 ft to arm bombs.  With these could bomb at 500 ft with throttles wide open.

Very historical.

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Re: B-25's
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2008, 10:40:10 AM »
I've never really known too much about this method, but it seems like a fine idea.

Also, it should take away from the current trend of low-level / dive-bombing CVs with heavy, 4 engine bombers.

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Re: B-25's
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2008, 10:46:43 AM »
I'd rather have the delayed fuze than parafrags.

The parafrags were small, designed more for killing people and soft objects.

Delay fusing on the other hand would let us drop 500lb bombs on target from low level without being blown to pieces.

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Re: B-25's
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2008, 11:05:25 AM »
Very cool idea...

I vividly remember pics in historical books of 25's dropping parafrags on airfields.....   now that could be way cool!
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Re: B-25's
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2008, 11:44:19 AM »
Very cool idea...

I vividly remember pics in historical books of 25's dropping parafrags on airfields.....   now that could be way cool!
parafrags would be useless delayed timer might be fun, but IMHO they should be the last thing on ht's to do list.
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Re: B-25's
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2008, 01:01:27 PM »
Parafrags were used against airfields to make runways unusable by blowing a bunch of craters in them. Since we can't knock out runways there's no real use for parafrags.

MAYBE if HTC ever added full infantry units....
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Re: B-25's
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2008, 01:48:15 PM »
Or a runway which had actual 'working' craters though that would likely be difficult to add.
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Re: B-25's
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2008, 01:59:28 PM »
Or a runway which had actual 'working' craters though that would likely be difficult to add.

We had that in AW. In IMHO it sucked, if you think its easy to knock out an air field now. Just imagine the tardlets just having to hit the runway with eggs instead of a shed.

Just say no to cratering a runway to shut down a base.
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Re: B-25's
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2008, 02:21:48 PM »
There were working craters in AH a long time ago. People were quite upset to lose their planes immediately after spawning to RWY, because there was practically no way of seeing one had a crater in front of him. Thus they were soon changed into no-collide objects.


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Re: B-25's
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2008, 03:05:34 PM »
I'm sure we can take out a runway in Aces High...

In the many times when I've been messing around in the offline mode, I've noticed that in the "Objects settings" bit of "Settings", runways are listed, just they take 125 1,000 pound bombs to destroy (and then they spawn back after about 2 or 3 minutes).  I guess that once you finally managed to destroy the runway, the planes would just spawn from another runway/hanger.

Anyway, I'd still like to have skip-bombing.

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Re: B-25's
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2008, 04:24:49 PM »
So in theory, the runway hardness can be set down low enough that they can be destroyed?

Question is, how would this affect a plane trying to take off or land on that runway?
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Re: B-25's
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2008, 05:38:16 PM »
I am kinda iffy on the skip bombs, being as water is a hard surface in game.  But para-frags would be great!  :aok
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Re: B-25's
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2008, 05:39:03 PM »
Parafrags were used against airfields to make runways unusable by blowing a bunch of craters in them. Since we can't knock out runways there's no real use for parafrags.

MAYBE if HTC ever added full infantry units....

     I doubt very much that a 24 lb warhead would be better at cratering than a 1,000 lb
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Re: B-25's
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2008, 09:59:51 PM »
Saxman the runways used to be destroyable.  A few lancasters dropping their load used to be enough.  Planes would roll over the ground under the runway, which was usualy rough ground.. We don't even have rough ground anymore..
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Re: B-25's
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2008, 11:24:44 PM »
I always wonder why people ask for parafrags. They would be as useful as using a spit1 to sink a CV using it's .303s.
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