what you all think about NOE raids with 25s?

[VB6command]

I was flying them in the green arena with my squadie behind me they sure can take a lot of hits and its fun to bomb with them at 2k over the town, feels like Doolittle... anyone know how high the real doolittle raid was?

-vmf

[Guppy35]

I suggest reading up on B25s in general.  5th Air Force in particular flew lots of low level stuff in their strafers, as well as with A20s attacking airfields and shipping.

[VB6command]

Right, that makes sense would be a good thing to research... I should start practicing with the A20's, not a very good strafer, could use some work

[Cee64E]

I was flying them in the green arena with my squadie behind me they sure can take a lot of hits and its fun to bomb with them at 2k over the town, feels like Doolittle... anyone know how high the real doolittle raid was?

-vmf

I'm just guessing here because I haven't checked to be sure, but if memory serves me right the Dolittle raid was right across the wave tops until they got feet dry then treetop level to their IP then pop and unload.  After that is was a mad scramble for the chinese coast.  I could be wrong, tese memories may be from the movie starring Van Johnson

[angelsandair]

If i recall when i saw about it last on the History Channel, it was 6k?? or was it 7k?? It was low till i guess feet dry, i just remember about 6000, or 7000 ft.

[Ack-Ack]

Right, that makes sense would be a good thing to research... I should start practicing with the A20's, not a very good strafer, could use some work

A-20 is an excellent strafer, provided you can hit what you're shooting at.


ack-ack

[Krusty]

I think he was saying HE wasn't a very good strafer, not that the A20 wasn't a very good strafer. 

[Yossarian]

I love the B-25 and A-20

I just wish I could hit stuff with that 75mm.  As always, any A-20/B-25 tips would be greatly appreciated.

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Yossarian

[Ghastly]

http://www.cv6.org/1942/doolittle/doolittle_2.htm

mentions 2000 ft.

As always, extreme care with Internet document that do not mention soruces is warranted.

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[TwentyFo]

The real question is what don't you think about NOE raids with 25s?

[Guppy35]

You guys do understand that the Doolittle Raid was a one-off deal with B25Bs that all crashed outside of one that was interned in Russia?

A big difference from the 5th AF guys going down on the deck to hit shipping and airfields with the defenders alerted.  Going into Simpson Harbor at Rabaul on the deck. or hitting Japanese airfields at Wewak or elsewhere was an entire different ballgame.

One of the things that people miss so often in this game, is the chance to at least pretend to see a little bit of the history.  I know the web is a wonderful thing, but there are these even more wonderful things called books that folks have taken the time to write and fill with history, stories and photos of what the real pilots and aircrew did in WW2

Some photos from a history of the 345th Air Apaches, who flew B25s with the 5th.  They were on the deck all the time.

Bombs away as they roar down a Japanese airfield.


Parafrags on another Japanese airfield.  Yep these guys are low


Anti-shipping and yep they're low.


Now in AH you can do the same!
The 80th guys up in B25s for an anti-shipping strike


Kinda crazy in the flak


Look a bit like that anti-shipping photo above?  You too can have this kind of fun

[Cee64E]

I admit that i haven't spent much time in the buffs, seems like I get swatted out of the air pretty darn quick.  I do like ground attack though so I suppose I should practice more in the buffs and get in on the fun...

[Grits]

You guys do understand that the Doolittle Raid was a one-off deal with B25Bs that all crashed outside of one that was interned in Russia?

Sounds strikingly similar to the standard MA bomb sortie.

[Fencer51]

I know the web is a wonderful thing, but there are these even more wonderful things called books that folks have taken the time to write and fill with history, stories and photos of what the real pilots and aircrew did in WW2.

Truer words have never been spoken.  Don't say you cannot afford it.  They have these pre-WWW things called Libraries.

[MajIssue]

Our squad tried the 25H NOE to a vbase. the Mitchell is so slow (and turns like a freight train!) that 1 stinking flak killed all 5 of us and the goon. We've had much better results with the bf110G2 in the GA rols NOE!