No more Ron Paul

[lazs2]

stroker..  how am I "wrong"?   just because you say you like freedom does not mean that the majority of Americans do...  You talk of the rest of us being "morons" and "brainwashed" yet.. you give an example of where you are a brainwashed moron.   I may be wrong.. you may not be but.. if you think not wearing seatbelts is gonna thin the gene pool in any real way.. you are brainwashed.

Your chances of a seatbelt saving your life (unless you race or drive very badly) are miniscule... you are brainwashed.. you dutifully put on the seatbelt every day.. yet.. you probly don't carry a gun.. your chances of being the victim of a violent crime are about 1 in four...  choosing seatbelts as the best threat assesment seems to be well.. moronic...  I would say those that don't carry a gun are "thinning the gene pool" but, unlike you.. I don't revel in it.   

I will say it again.. the vast majority of Americans today fear freedom and do not want it.

lazs

[lazs2]

BSD.. glad to see you are still with us.    I think that there is a lesson in ron pauls run...  that we were not quite ready.

I think that there is a lesson in his decision to not run and be a spoiler too.. I think it shows character and.. it is smart.. there is no plus in making the libertarian ideals hated by throwing an election to the demoncrats.

lazs

[DREDIOCK]

I can't help but think we are not ready for ron paul yet.

the government is not quite big and oppressive enough for most Americans yet.  Once the pendulum starts to swing the other way.. he, or someone like him, will get a lot of press and a lot of support.

lazs

Problem is. by the time it does get that big and oppressive.
It will be too late.

I'd rather join the movement now and encorage it to grow.
So when the time comes. We actually have something to move against, or I should say counter it with.
Rather then starting a grass roots movement when its already too late.

[lazs2]

How do you define "be a part of the movement"?

I voted for the guy in the primary.   I explained to everyone here why I did so.  I did not lie about the mans position.  I explained that some who supported him.. even to them in person.. probly shouldn't.

I don't think you should dred.. I don't think you would want to live under an individualistic type of system.  I have seen no evidence that you embrace libertarian or individualist principles.

I do so every day and every chance I get.   It is never "too late" until you die and then..  only for you.

lazs

[DREDIOCK]

How do you define "be a part of the movement"?

I voted for the guy in the primary.   I explained to everyone here why I did so.  I did not lie about the mans position.  I explained that some who supported him.. even to them in person.. probly shouldn't.

I don't think you should dred.. I don't think you would want to live under an individualistic type of system.  I have seen no evidence that you embrace libertarian or individualist principles.

I do so every day and every chance I get.   It is never "too late" until you die and then..  only for you.

lazs

LOL how do you figure I dont embrace individualist principles?
what specifically causes you to think that?


As for the movement. Watch the clip.
while he knows he isnt winning the election. he wants to keep the "revolution" in his own words. going

[lazs2]

"keeping the revolution going" has a nice ring to it... very osamabama like..  "changing the hope" or whatever he says.. I think he may even have a "keeping it going" soundbite.

I don't care about the phrases and soundbites.. I care what the guy means.  if ron paul means he is gonna drop out that is good news for all of us.   much as I like the guy and believe that he is right.. staying in would cause more harm than good at this point.. he had his chance.. America had it's chance... we soundly rejected him and individual rights over socialism.

lazs

[AWMac]

How do you define "be a part of the movement"?
lazs

If you are the "blunt" or "tapered" end?

 

Mac

[bsdaddict]

Thanks, Lazs.  I'm glad I'm still here too...   

'Bout "the movement" or "the revolution", it's all about the Constitution; constitutional principles and the candidates who will uphold them.  Being part of it (the "movement" or "revolution") means doing the best you can to educate people about said principles and supporting candidates who are true to the Constitution.

BTW, Ron Paul IS NOT dropping out.  He was interviewed  on CNN this morning, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYi1458u5iU  Explains why he's staying in ("Republicans deserve to have a conservative to vote for"), why he's not running third party and why he won't support McCain.

Another piece on not dropping out, RP's son, another Dr. Paul, is interviewed by his local news and explains why RP's staying in, essentially to send the GOP a message.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsK4i6BroTU

[lazs2]

Oh, I absolutely agree that it does no harm for him to stay in the primaries and run as a republican.   That is what he is saying.  in essence.. he is out of the race but being seen and heard.  this is good.

What would be bad is if he ran as an independent... this I don't think he will do.   I think he is too good of a man for that.

It is good that the republicans have a conservative individual rights guy to vote for..  the democrats don't at all and haven't for many decades.

They don't like libertarian principals.. they are quite happy to vote for the most liberal democrat the democrats can field sooo.. 

ron paul running as an independent would only help the liberal socialism cause.

lazs

[bsdaddict]

wanna see "the movement" in action?  Here's a short video from a debate of sorts from the North Carolina 4th congressional district race.  From what I gather, it's a neocon-ish guy and a Ron Paul Republican guy being asked who can better beat the Dem incumbent.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AJtRzROGvE 

Edit:  another Ron Paul Republican, Murray Sabrin, addresses Union County Republicans.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efAXNyFZgT8

[lazs2]

As I have said.. the more ron paul republicans we have the better.  that does not mean that I want him to run as an independent tho.

lazs