And people say bush is a bad person.

[MORAY37]

See Rules #4, #5

[AWMac]

Denholm, did Bush capture OBL?

No, But Clinton let him go.

[lazs2]

the tax rate is all that matters to us as individuals...

Now, you can get rid of the debt in one fell swoop.. one year.. there are two ways to do it.

You can disband the military and sell off everything it owns.. or.. you can cease all social welfare programs.

Both have an equal share of the spending pie.. something less than about half each.

Wars get paid for tho and... some money is made off the military industrial complex... social programs only grow and grow and grow and grow..... and never get paid for and never show any results other than to make people more dependent..  it is "bread and circus's" all over again.  only now it is welfare and reality shows.

lazs

[rpm]

No, But Clinton let him go.

So did Bush.

[midnight Target]

No, But Clinton let him go.

Not true.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200406220008

[NUKE]

so I did not bring him here

him here because we had no basis on which to hold him,

though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.

kind of implies that he had the option to bring him here, or not. He chose not.

[JB73]

Speaking of government finances during an administration...

seems almost everyone has forgotten

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_government_shutdown_of_1995

[wrongwayric]

Let's see, Reagan ends cold war, Bush sr. gets in office begins shutting down military bases, cuts troop strengths across the board, forces Iraq into a fight, kicks butt, contiues to decrease the military strength. Clinton gets in, now military cut to minimum, but were we paying less taxes to support the smaller military? No! Thus a surplus of money was used to pay down the debt. Personally i have no love for any of the politicians as you'll never see your taxes go down with either party. Try this with your boss. "Hey boss i really blew my budget this year, yea lots of gambling and just throwing it away. Anyway i'm going to have to make you pay me 50k this year instead ot 40k next year." Think you'd still have a job?

[lazs2]

and you won't see taxes or debt really go down with either party.. they are both in the big government business.

One party grows the military with the money they save on worthless and harmful social programs and the other party grows the worthless and harmful social welfare programs with the money they save by staying out of worthless wars and then cutting defense to the bone.

lazs

[Fishu]

Wrongwayric,

Do you think you'd still have a house after ignoring repayament of the loan?

[JBA]

Perhaps a more telling story would be the nation debt under each President.

I have posted on this some many Fracking times I'm tired. Go do you homework.
You never measure any Govt spending , that is not normalized to a common denominators, that being the GDP. If you look only at whole dollars then your not truthful, i.e. Democrats and the  mainstream media.

[angelsandair]

See Rules #4, #5

For the thread or the post?

[FrodeMk3]

Gov't. spending is now the least of our problems, though. Spiraling inflation, the recession, rising price of oil,the credit crisis...These things' all have to be addressed more immediately, IMO.

[Shamus]

I have posted on this some many Fracking times I'm tired. Go do you homework.
(Image removed from quote.)You never measure any Govt spending , that is not normalized to a common denominators, that being the GDP. If you look only at whole dollars then your not truthful, i.e. Democrats and the  mainstream media.

Well dang... looks like its going the wrong way there bud.

How is that the dems are at fault so far?

SHAMUS

[Holden McGroin]

About the Bush tax cut...

From Section 8 of the Constitution

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

The original house bill had 314 co-sponsors, the original Senate bill had 56 co-sponsors, and yet its the Bush Tax cut.

it's the CONGRESS people, change the CONGRESS