When is a HO not a HO?

[2bighorn]

Nope, last time I met AKAK was in mid-war my hog gainst his 38, freat E fight, that turned into a stall fight, and I got lucky shot on his way back up and over.  Very good fight.

My first AH sortie, I got HOed by Waffle. Second sortie I got HOed by Ack-Ack. But that was 5 years ago.

Last time I met Ack-Ack, it was in mid war, on the deck and we had 4 or 5 very good fights. Never did he go for front quarter shots. I was very surprised (in positive sense). Kudos to him.

I won't say the person's name because it wouldn't matter either way.  I'll put it to you like this, out of 6 fights, he won 3, I won zero.  The other 3 was a collision, a Ho, and an snapstall auger otd.  The 3 he won were the most boring, e-milking, rope attempt, ending in lame-luftberry fights Ive had, since the last time I fought his last shade!  He asked the rules, I called no- Hoing, an otd alt, and he climbed to 5k ......then said oops I'm at 5k, I said I'll climb, then Ho'd me.  Too bad I didn't remember right then who it was, I'd have just logged and saved myself the bore!

Let me guess, Snozzle...

[SkyRock]

Let me guess, Snozzle...

  ur wicked smaht!



 







Oh and by the way!!     

[john9001]

when is a HO not a HO?

when you win. 

[BOXGIRL]

It takes 2 to HO, so you/me/all of us are just as guilty as the guy or girl who shot us down....so don't whine about just re-up your plane and take a sip of whatever your drinking and rememeber it takes 2!

[Ack-Ack]

  ur wicked smaht!



 







Oh and by the way!!     

What other names does he go by?  Is WindX and Headcheese a couple of them?


ack-ack

[snowey]

none of them wer ho's

[SkyRock]

What other names does he go by?  Is WindX and Headcheese a couple of them?


ack-ack

Not whindex. 

[Kermit de frog]

It takes 2 to HO, so you/me/all of us are just as guilty as the guy or girl who shot us down....so don't whine about just re-up your plane and take a sip of whatever your drinking and rememeber it takes 2!

In time, you will realize this thinking is incorrect.

It only takes 1 to enter a pure pursuit mode.  If the same person decides to attack in front of his opponents 3/9 line, he will enter a HO situation when at close range.  It only takes 1 to pull the trigger, not two.

[Masherbrum]

Two weeks ago, Kamori asked me to "hop over and wing them".    I am talking to Kam about this and that, the next thing I know we're talking about how long we've been at this.    Then BEARTHUR (Parker) says over vox: "You've been playing for almost 6 years Karaya?   I figured you'd be better than you are."

It's absolutely hilarious to see BEARTHUR whine about a HO, while being caught on film HO'ing the first friendly in an La7.   Not only that, AKAK's first trigger pull on BEARTHUR is a wicked snapshot.    Then enter in Phan who pancakes. .   So already BEARTHUR is "in need of help" by this time.   He turns to allow another friendly to get on AKAK's six, but not in time to save his bacon.   The spixteen is spraying and flames AKAK, only to stop shooting long enough for AKAK to shoot down BEARTHUR.   

You'd expect it coming from someone who ups a single PT boat and spawncamps one sortie in a Tiger.   Wait, he did it.   Pathetic.   

[RoGenT]

I would have to agree - Didn't look like HO shot to me, but more of high deflection shot 

[BlauK]

It only takes 1 to enter a pure pursuit mode.  If the same person decides to attack in front of his opponents 3/9 line, he will enter a HO situation when at close range.  It only takes 1 to pull the trigger, not two.

Would you call a 1 oc or 11 oc shot a HO? 
IMHO, HO can only happen from 12 oc with both having a gun solution.

Coming in from the frontal side of the enemy does not necessarily lead into a HO. It happens only if the enemy decides to turn into you and you both decide to remain on that heading until you are at shooting distance.

That would then be a HO regardless of who pulls the triger and who does not. The only reason not to take a shot when you have one would be some previous agreement on a colde merge (at DA), right? What other reason could there be? If one is not going to shoot, why risk going HO in the first place??? 

[bongaroo]

i know i'm in for a good fight if we pass by nose to nose and he doesn't shoot.  And this 2 to HO idea is bunk.

[2bighorn]

It happens only if the enemy decides to turn into you and you both decide to remain on that heading until you are at shooting distance.

C'mon, I'm sure you were in situation when 2 or 3 guys jumped you on the deck, all with more E and better turners. Only thing you can do is evading and turning into them. When so slow and going into them, you can't turn away, you give them belly shot...

It takes only 1 guy to pull the trigger... It's cheap and dirty...

[Kotari]

Im new here, and i really donŽt understand the fuss about "HO"
I aint that new to flying not to realize how dangerous it is to be in front of guns solution.
So howcome you expect to be safe when facing those guns ?
ShouldnŽt you maneuver to avoid guns solutions at all times ?

DA "Gentlemen with white gloves" and all that honory thing is totally different in my opinion, i wellcome that "first merge HO no shots" rule as courtesy to the opponent.

But in the MA if i should die because i got HOŽd i allways blame myself for it, stupid of me to fly into his guns...right ?

[Guppy35]

Im new here, and i really donŽt understand the fuss about "HO"
I aint that new to flying not to realize how dangerous it is to be in front of guns solution.
So howcome you expect to be safe when facing those guns ?
ShouldnŽt you maneuver to avoid guns solutions at all times ?

DA "Gentlemen with white gloves" and all that honory thing is totally different in my opinion, i wellcome that "first merge HO no shots" rule as courtesy to the opponent.

But in the MA if i should die because i got HOŽd i allways blame myself for it, stupid of me to fly into his guns...right ?

The issue in this case isn't that it was a HO shot.  The issue is, the guy tried to hide the fact that he got clobbered by a beauty of a deflection shot by a better stick, by claiming it was a HO shot.

There are lots of cartoon pilots whose ego's can't accept the fact that they can 'die' unless the other guy did something 'unfair'