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Offline BMathis

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The Russians are Coming!!!
« on: March 14, 2008, 12:00:24 PM »
got this in an email today, it's pretty amazing, though I'd heard about this some time back... The video is great!


Russian Fighter SU-30MK - READ THE DESCRIPTION BELOW......IT IS
AMAZING !

Russia now has #1 fighter plane in the world.....  SU-30-
Vectored Thrust with Canards.  As you watch this airplane, look
at the canards moving along side of, and just below the canopy
rail.  The 'canards' are the small wings forward of the main
wings.  The smoke and contrails provide a sense of the actual
flight path, sometimes in reverse direction.

This video is of an in-flight demonstration flown by the
Russian's-30MK fighter aircraft.  You will not believe what you
are about to see.

The fighter can stall from high speed, stopping forward motion
in seconds.
(full stall).  Then it demonstrates an ability to descend tail
first without causing a compressor stall.  It can also recover
from a flat spin in less than a minute.

These manoeuvre capabilities don't exist in any other aircraft
in the world today..  Take a look at the video with the sound
up.  This aircraft is of concern to U.S. and NATO planners.
We don't know which nations will soon be flying the SU-30MK,
hopefully China isn't one of them..

Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Note:

Friends worked with advanced aircraft flight control systems
and concepts for many years as an extension of stability
control and means of control.
Canards and vectored thrust were among many concepts examined
to extend our fighter aircraft performance.  Neither our
current or next generation aircraft now poised for funding &
production can in any way match the  performance of this
Russian aircraft NOW FLYING in any near combat situation.
Somehow the bankrupt Russian aircraft industry has out produced
our complex politically tainted aerospace industry with this
technology marvel.  Scratch any ideas of close in air-to-air
combat with this aircraft in the future.

http://www.mediafire.com/?0d4vcdw7kjx

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Mathis

 
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Offline indy007

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Re: The Russians are Coming!!!
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2008, 12:23:44 PM »
Do a search for Eagl's explanation on this, and watch the Su-30MK vid side-by-side with an F-22 vid.

After that, it's pretty easy to see which aircraft has superior flight control.

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Re: The Russians are Coming!!!
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2008, 12:53:40 PM »
Does it have supercruise?

Is it stealthy?

Yes it will give a good pilot in an F15 a run for his money but if it can't see his opponent and is killed from 100 miles out what does all that manuverablity give him?

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Re: The Russians are Coming!!!
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2008, 12:54:51 PM »
I want one!     :O
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Re: The Russians are Coming!!!
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2008, 01:08:12 PM »
"The fighter can stall from high speed, stopping forward motion
in seconds."

thats a good maneuver, it makes to easier for the american A to A missile to hit it.

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Re: The Russians are Coming!!!
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2008, 01:11:58 PM »
Bnasty, you foolish, foolish man....

You don't walk into a country Western Bar and start talking about how Duran Duran is better (much less some godless Russian band)

It's a commonly known fact that the mere application of an American Flag to anything at all makes that thing not just bulletproof, but righteous, sexy and downright pleasant-smelling! Hell, I was at a Bon Jovi concert last week and the 300 pound bag of mashed potatoes sitting next to me transformed into a slender centerfold just by STANDING while Ole' Glory flashed across the big screen.

Get educated, my friend. To start yourself off, I suggest a pretty dense diet of History, Discovery and Military channel programming. Once you get your brain loaded with that, take the next step and talk to some pilots who have never flown, flown against, or even seen the SU30 in real life. Then your indoctrination, er, I mean education, will be complete!

Good luck!!
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Offline kamilyun

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Re: The Russians are Coming!!!
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2008, 01:30:34 PM »
 :rofl

mmmm, mashed potatoes delicious.

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Re: The Russians are Coming!!!
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2008, 01:57:54 PM »
i prefer potatoes fried in the french manner.

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Re: The Russians are Coming!!!
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2008, 02:03:44 PM »
i prefer potatoes fried in the french manner.

So does your average 3rd grader... Therein lies our problem.

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Re: The Russians are Coming!!!
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2008, 02:31:54 PM »
Where is Boroda? :D

Offline BMathis

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Re: The Russians are Coming!!!
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2008, 02:34:46 PM »
Bnasty, you foolish, foolish man....

You don't walk into a country Western Bar and start talking about how Duran Duran is better (much less some godless Russian band)

It's a commonly known fact that the mere application of an American Flag to anything at all makes that thing not just bulletproof, but righteous, sexy and downright pleasant-smelling! Hell, I was at a Bon Jovi concert last week and the 300 pound bag of mashed potatoes sitting next to me transformed into a slender centerfold just by STANDING while Ole' Glory flashed across the big screen.

Get educated, my friend. To start yourself off, I suggest a pretty dense diet of History, Discovery and Military channel programming. Once you get your brain loaded with that, take the next step and talk to some pilots who have never flown, flown against, or even seen the SU30 in real life. Then your indoctrination, er, I mean education, will be complete!




Good luck!!

Excuse me?  

I was simply passing on an email...

Did I say I agree with what the email said? NO

Did I say our American fighters were in trouble because of this?  NO

This video had nice footage. That's it...



And by "get educated", do you mean going to a Bon Jovi concert? Well sounds like some good history lessons there.  :huh

I wouldn't go around calling people uneducated, especially if you have nothing to back it... That would imply the inverse; as in, you're the uneducated one.
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Re: The Russians are Coming!!!
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2008, 02:52:53 PM »
Excuse me? 

I was simply passing on an email...

Did I say I agree with what the email said? NO

Did I say our American fighters were in trouble because of this?  NO

This video had nice footage. That's it...



And by "get educated", do you mean going to a Bon Jovi concert? Well sounds like some good history lessons there.  :huh

I wouldn't go around calling people uneducated, especially if you have nothing to back it... That would imply the inverse; as in, you're the uneducated one.


Are you immune to sarcasm or something? Did you seriously take my Bon Jovi reference seriously? My entire post was mocking the people whose snap response was to disagree with you, pal. Read it a couple more times.

Sheesh

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Re: The Russians are Coming!!!
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2008, 03:05:10 PM »
Are you immune to sarcasm or something? Did you seriously take my Bon Jovi reference seriously? My entire post was mocking the people whose snap response was to disagree with you, pal. Read it a couple more times.

Sheesh

This subject has been beaten to death in here so many times. Eagl's take on it is probably the most well informed we'll ever get to see.

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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2008, 03:06:32 PM »
Third paragraph sounded insulting. I love history, and have a minor in History at Univ. Houston. I watch the military and discovery channel waaaay too much, so my girl says.

My bad if it was fasicious. I was just simply passing on what some 'internet' people are circulating...


EDIT: I had no idea this had been posted before Indy.
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Re: The Russians are Coming!!!
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2008, 03:09:16 PM »
Gonna need some anaesthetic there bnasty..
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