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Offline wrongwayric

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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2008, 11:03:29 AM »
Yea you got to pack some serious hardware to take on them deer. As Ron White says you want to kill a deer put a horn and flashing lights on the bullet. :rofl

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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2008, 11:25:56 AM »
lead is the new hoax that they are using to take away freedoms and stop hunting and make it harder to own and enjoy firearms.

This is not new.. A while back they said it poisoned the water and ground.   they did all kinds of studies and decades old shooting ranges and guess what?

lead forms an oxide around it that stops it from further oxidation.. that is why you find lead shot from the 14th century in the ground in almost perfect shape.  it does not dissolve in water or earth..

In the shooting ranges studied.. millions of rounds were there... There was some local lead oxide in the ground but under a couple of inches of soil.. levels were normal.

One condor got lead poisoning and may or may not have died from it.   Lead is quite common in nature.

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My school has a riflery team with the riflery range being indoors, in the basement of one of the Athletic Buildings.  It was only JUST recently opened up again.  The school tested the ground around the down turn of the end of the range and found, SURPRISE!  Lead in the ground.  They couldn't prove contamination, only that there was lead in the ground where the bullets stopped.

I'd be a little more peeved if our team wasn't filled with sweetheartbags.
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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2008, 12:09:02 PM »
The link does not work for me. I keep getting a 400 webpage not found error.

There is something to consider here. It takes a while to absorb lead from the metal. Shooting a deer and eating the venison won't give you lead poisoning. The animal didn't carry the bullet long enough to circulate the lead throughout the carcass because it died.

Having a lead projectile in the body is no guarantee that it will cause problems. The body tends to encapsulate the projectile to reduce contact as it is recognised as a foreign object. There are known accounts of folks who carry actual lead projectiles in their body as it was too dangerous to remove them surgically or it was in a place that it would not likely travel and cause a problem. They did not suffer from lead poisoning, other than the trauma of being shot.

The meat immediately surrounding the wound is not typically eaten as it is all bruised / torn in a condition known to hunters as bloodshot.

Typical modern hunting rounds are copper jacketed also reducing the contact with the new evil, lead.

There are pure copper hunting bullets. A company known as Barnes has been making them for years in multiple calibers. There are some available as factory loaded rounds as well.

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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2008, 02:02:26 PM »
After a deer or a Condor is raised in a house with lead paint, lead window caulking, etc. and have spent many, many hours up to their forearms (does deer and condors have forearms?) in leaded gasoline cleaning tractor and auto plugs and parts..........after they have spent a few years melting and pouring lead for bullets , etc. ...they can come tell me about it. Until then it`s a crock of crap.

Oooops...I left out the annual lead arsenate/horse and mule mixture that was put out by hand.
That would really wind their clock.
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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2008, 03:02:52 PM »
I've never had a deer move more than ten yards away from where it was when I hit it before they dropped.

That's because you're shooting them with a shotgun (duh!)  :aok
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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2008, 03:03:03 PM »
I like the 270 for its ability to reach out and touch someone or something. Unless I hit bone usually clean through.
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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2008, 03:13:33 PM »
 :O  Good thing I killed my deer this year with a bow.

  :eek: Wouldn't want to get lead poisoning  :rofl

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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2008, 04:42:00 PM »
   Good thing I killed my deer this year with a bow. 

Now you`re talking. :)
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