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Offline wrag

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Lead warning on Venison???
« on: March 29, 2008, 02:14:39 PM »
Seems someone is targeting hunted meat...........

http://nssf.org/legal/links/NDstatement.cfm

It's time to demonize hunting I guess............
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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2008, 09:32:06 PM »
Are there any hunting bullets other than lead which would expand sufficiently to kill a deer?  And would these be available in popular calibers such as .270 and .308?  Would a copper bullet work in those calibers?


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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2008, 09:37:30 PM »
Quote from: Leslie on March 29, 2008, 09:32:06 PM
Are there any hunting bullets other than lead which would expand sufficiently to kill a deer?  And would these be available in popular calibers such as .270 and .308?  Would a copper bullet work in those calibers?


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You can borrow some of my silver werewolf killing bullets :D
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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2008, 11:25:43 PM »
Normally we just back up a lil to get the Buicks bumper outta the deer before we throw it into the trunk.

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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2008, 01:24:37 AM »
Quote from: Leslie on March 29, 2008, 09:32:06 PM
Are there any hunting bullets other than lead which would expand sufficiently to kill a deer?  And would these be available in popular calibers such as .270 and .308?  Would a copper bullet work in those calibers?


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I suppose they would but the entire point of the situation is that people have been eating game killed with bullets for a VERY long time.

It might be worth noting that until around the 1920s-40s most bullets were made with MORE lead then the current bullets we use now.

Didn't SEEM to affect anyone adversely?

Ducks and geese and turkeys takin in the wild are often cooked with some of the lead pellets still in them?

Thinkin this is more of a case of OVER REACTION then otherwise?
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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2008, 01:38:25 AM »
Are you sure Al Gore didn't have anything to do with this?  Sounds like his handy work.
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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2008, 01:41:12 AM »
I hunt deer all the time up here... :confused:
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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2008, 02:01:48 AM »
I seem to recall a friend telling me (I'm not a duck hunter) it's illegal to hunt ducks with lead shot. You use steel, bismuth or tungsten. That way if the duck is only winged with a pellet or two it does not become lead poisoned. The only question I have with applying this to deer is just how many deer have the bullet stuck in them? Everyone I've shot had an exit wound and no fragmentation.
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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2008, 02:19:03 AM »
Quote from: rpm on March 30, 2008, 02:01:48 AM
I seem to recall a friend telling me (I'm not a duck hunter) it's illegal to hunt ducks with lead shot. You use steel, bismuth or tungsten. That way if the duck is only winged with a pellet or two it does not become lead poisoned. The only question I have with applying this to deer is just how many deer have the bullet stuck in them? Everyone I've shot had an exit wound and no fragmentation.

You're not supposed to use lead because it poisons the water...the duck included. About the deer, it depends, are you using a rifle? Or a slug?
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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2008, 03:21:37 AM »
Quote from: rpm on March 30, 2008, 02:01:48 AM
Everyone I've shot had an exit wound and no fragmentation.

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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2008, 03:22:32 AM »
aim higher?

Ya gotta lead runnin Squirrels with a BB gun.

Mac
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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2008, 03:23:10 AM »
Here is a nice artical on Winchesters new E Tip solid copper bullets. Good read for the hunters in here that might have to start worrying about the enviormental nuts passing new laws about lead bullets where you hunt.

http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunition/etipwin_100907/index.html

Barnes has been making solid copper bullets for a long time now. I use their solid copper slugs in my shotgun for deer hunting, and have had great results with them. Weight retention on impact is outstanding, as well as expansion on impact. I've never had a deer move more than ten yards away from where it was when I hit it before they dropped.
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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2008, 03:27:44 AM »
 :lol
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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2008, 03:33:04 AM »
Quote from: SpikesX on March 30, 2008, 02:19:03 AM
You're not supposed to use lead because it poisons the water...the duck included. About the deer, it depends, are you using a rifle? Or a slug?
Never used a shotgun for deer, always a rifle. My current weapon of choice is a 1940 8mm Mauser.
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Re: Lead warning on Venison???
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2008, 09:28:49 AM »
lead is the new hoax that they are using to take away freedoms and stop hunting and make it harder to own and enjoy firearms.

This is not new.. A while back they said it poisoned the water and ground.   they did all kinds of studies and decades old shooting ranges and guess what?

lead forms an oxide around it that stops it from further oxidation.. that is why you find lead shot from the 14th century in the ground in almost perfect shape.  it does not dissolve in water or earth..

In the shooting ranges studied.. millions of rounds were there... There was some local lead oxide in the ground but under a couple of inches of soil.. levels were normal.

One condor got lead poisoning and may or may not have died from it.   Lead is quite common in nature.

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