meteor

[Furball]

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[Selino631]

This plane would be frikin sweet. fun fights with Me 262 

[angelsandair]

well it meets the requirements for it.

[h338]

imsure it would...it would be a nice jet that wouldnt cost as much as the 262...ill run it by skuzzy

glad you guys are psyched about this idea   

[C(Sea)Bass]

I forget where I read it but, I rember reading that the Tempest was faster in actual operation due to the speed restrictions imposed upon the Meteor, due to problems with it's control surfaces. At high speeds the Meteor controls become unresponsive even in level flight. It was nicknamed "the meat box" because once the pilot exceeded a certain speed the controls no longer functioned and he became a peice of meat going for a wild ride.

All we would be getting with the meteor is a slower, less maueverable, Tempest with lesser acceleration and propbably worse climb rate.

[Furball]

I have never heard that.

If that was true it would never have caught a V1.

[SuperbKi11er]

did it see squadron strength? someone look this up. For all we know, it may have the requirements to get into AH

yes it had 2 squads for anti V1 Squads.

[C(Sea)Bass]

After a quick search this is the info I found. Sorry if its hard to read but its translated from dutch.

"The first seriemachine, one of 20 Gloster G.41A Meteor F.Mk.I 's, flew in January 1944. The British exchanged with the Americans for a Bell YP-59A Airacomet. Neither side will be impressed have been: the American jet was still slower than the Meteor I, which is only 670 km / h fetched. The Me 262 was 200 mph faster!"

from:http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://home.tiscali.nl/vliegmachines/Meteor1.htm&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=5&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dglocester%2Bmeteor%2Bmeatbox%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff

[C(Sea)Bass]

With some more searching I found some stats on the F MK.III, the latest model to see service.

Engine: Two Derwent I or Derwent IV engines
Thrust: 2,000lb (Derwent I) or 2,400lb (Derwent IV)
Span: 43ft
Length: 41.4ft
Gross Weight: 13,342lb
Maximum level speed at sea level: 486mph
Maximum level speed at 30,000ft: 493mph
Rate of climb at sea level: 3,980ft/ min
Ceiling: 46,000ft
Cruise Range at normal load: 504 miles
Armament: Four 20mm cannon in nose and two 1,000lb bombs or sixteen 90lb rocket projectiles under the wings

but, those numbers are for the model with the Derwent IV engines, some of the MK. III's had other engines.

"The F Mk.III was powered by three different engines. The Derwent I was not ready in time to be used on the first fifteen aircraft, and so they were given W.2B/23c Wellands. The majority were equipped with the Derwent I. Finally, a number of aircraft were given 2,400lb Derwent IV engines. The published performance statistics for the F Mk.III are normally for this version. The last fifteen F Mk.IIIs were given the longer engine nacelles used on the Mk.4, while a number of aircraft were retrofitted with these nacelles, which increased the top speed of the aircraft."

The first 15 aircraft with the W.2B/23c Wellands had a top speed of 465 at 16,000 feet.

I was wrong about the control problems. Those problems occured on the MK. VIII model, However all of the models were known to have sluggish and "heavy" controls. Also the aircraft would compress at lower speeds than the 262 and even some piston engine fighters.


all info camr from: http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_gloster_meteor_III.html

[Furball]

With some more searching I found some stats on the F MK.III, the latest model to see service.

Engine: Two Derwent I or Derwent IV engines
Thrust: 2,000lb (Derwent I) or 2,400lb (Derwent IV)
Span: 43ft
Length: 41.4ft
Gross Weight: 13,342lb
Maximum level speed at sea level: 486mph
Maximum level speed at 30,000ft: 493mph
Rate of climb at sea level: 3,980ft/ min
Ceiling: 46,000ft
Cruise Range at normal load: 504 miles
Armament: Four 20mm cannon in nose and two 1,000lb bombs or sixteen 90lb rocket projectiles under the wings

but, those numbers are for the model with the Derwent IV engines, some of the MK. III's had other engines.

"The F Mk.III was powered by three different engines. The Derwent I was not ready in time to be used on the first fifteen aircraft, and so they were given W.2B/23c Wellands. The majority were equipped with the Derwent I. Finally, a number of aircraft were given 2,400lb Derwent IV engines. The published performance statistics for the F Mk.III are normally for this version. The last fifteen F Mk.IIIs were given the longer engine nacelles used on the Mk.4, while a number of aircraft were retrofitted with these nacelles, which increased the top speed of the aircraft."

The first 15 aircraft with the W.2B/23c Wellands had a top speed of 465 at 16,000 feet.

I was wrong about the control problems. Those problems occured on the MK. VIII model, However all of the models were known to have sluggish and "heavy" controls. Also the aircraft would compress at lower speeds than the 262 and even some piston engine fighters.


all info camr from: http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_gloster_meteor_III.html

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Derwent II's, and if you look above, the sluggish controls refer to the ailerons.  Not a big problem imo, can get over that in AH with rudder.

[EskimoJoe]

Since when was beingCOOL been part of the aircraft inclusion requirements for this sim? 

If it was part of the aircraft inclusion requirements, we'd already have the F-14, F-15, F-16, F/A-18, F-22, and the B-52! 

[Furball]

The requirement is usually if it is an american plane it gets in, so those are valid suggestions  

[angelsandair]

The requirement is usually if it is an american plane it gets in, so those are valid suggestions  

You're basing this off of the P-39 right? I killed a Pnzr in one earlier today. I just aimed the 37mm at the back of the tank/turret. Killed it. Not too hard, it did it's job well.