What if all art was eliminated ??

[lazs2]

well..  I guess that is the point.. that art is an individual thing.. of "the people" and not the state.  I am all for the separation of art and state.   

lazs

[bcadoo]

I can see you never created anything.

I have my questions about royalties if i believe thats what your talking about. I know about music so i'll say that. I'll bring up Metallica because i think maybe that fits in well to what your saying. Should a group like that recieve royalties everytime somebody uses something they created? Downloads their music or whatever. Idk, part of me says people that are using what they created, should pay them. But if someone creates a chair, for instances should i pay them continually everytime i sit in it?

Maybe i should just pay one flat rate and leave it at that.

Royalties are paid when the music is played or performed in public, and for each copy of the music produced; so the incentive for a songwriter is to write good music that will be performed and sold to generate income.  Royalties are not paid just for listening to a cd you've purchased.

There is one particular album I've purchased over and over because the formats keep changing...LP, 8 track, cassette, CD, but the music is THAT good. 

[Shuckins]

The statement made earlier that many of the most famous Renaissance artists were "subsidized" by popes and emperors overlooks one important fact:  those artists had already established themselves as people of real talent in the private sector.  Popes and emperors did not hire artistic bums;  they wanted only the best.  Pop art would not have appealed to them:  that's why Michaelangelo was chosen to paint the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, and not Michel Tortellini.

In my opinion, one reason so few "modern artists" follow the old classical school, is because they do not have the math skills necessary to paint a scene using correct perspective.  They lack the discipline to devote themselves to a painting that takes weeks to complete. 

The same lack of discipline and paucity of knowledge about music and its timing, is one reason so many modern musicians cannot compose a lengthy musical piece without making extensive use of codas, codas with key changes, choruses with codas and key changes, and every ending up an octave and LOUD.

Art should, thus, be unsubsidized by the government....that way, if it doesn't appeal to the masses or to some wealthy patron, it will die a swift death.

[Thruster]

The inclination to create metaphorical representations of ideas that we find significant or provocative is fundamental to human nature. It can be argued that the motivation to create art is the one distinguishing characteristic of human thought. Without the ability to communicate on a level outside of the literal we would not have evolved past the level of mindless simians.

[cpxxx]

I agree with thruster. I think art is what makes us human. Without art we would be no more than another form of animal. Art is the mark of civilisation. Once we have the basics, food, water, shelter. People begin to look around for more. The first thing cavemen did was paint the walls of his cave. What's more they probably sang (grunted) songs, played music and told stories. All of that is art, it sepearates us from the animals.

I often think there is a fundamental misunderstanding among many people as to what 'art' actually means. Many people think of art, as if it was only about paintings and sculpture. But art is everywhere around us. Everything we buy has some form of artistic input. The cars we drive, the planes we fly in. It's endless. 

Also, art is more than images or shapes. We have the art of driving, the art of business, the art of war. Art is anything we do, not easily definable in scientific terms. Which is in fact most things.

[eskimo2]

If there's one thing I hate about art, it's talking about it.

[Thruster]

Sorta like dancing about architecture?

[Neubob]

Anybody who excels at any discipline is an artist. Engineering, science, medicine, law if approached with enough passion, originality and creativity all rise to the level of art.

Art is expression, plain and simple. Some people do their jobs simply to get the job done. Certain people put themselves, their heart, their soul into the job. Therein lies the boundary between artistic expression and basic execution.

[Jackal1]

If there's one thing I hate about art, it's talking about it.

Me too. What kind of art do you hate the most when it comes to talking about it?





 

[LEDPIG]

I guess if art was banned we woulnd't have Aces High. Waffle, Pyro, Skuzzy, HiTech are artists when you think about it.

We'd all be mighty bored without them.....

[lazs2]

you can't ban art.. it is all around us.

lazs

[JB88]

you can't ban art.. it is all around us.

lazs

yup.


but it can certainly be "missed"

[gunnss]

Hmmm,
I write and get paid for it.
no subsidy though if I write junk the publisher wont pay for it....
Of course you could play AH with little "X"s instead of art.

Regards,
Kevin

There are two big problems with Art.

First, is that it is subsidized.  While this is a rather common occurrence in our socialistic society, this goes past that.  Artists EXPECT to be subsidized.  They feel that they are due subsidies.  Basically, they are due free, unearned money.

The next problem is that lame bullpoop attempts to create something is automatically assumed to be "Art."  No, you're feces smeared canvas is not art.



Past that, my personal qualm with most Artists is that they have a sense of elitism about them.  When you consider the previous two items I listed, the vast majority of artists have nothing to feel elitist about.  Which is why they need to be kicked in the face.

[AKIron]

I think it's a fallacy to believe that only professional or well known artists produce "art". I believe it's within every one of us to create, even if it's only a bit of humor that brings a smile to the face of your family or friend. Take away that ability from all of us and the world would be a dreary place indeed.

[Gh0stFT]

this thread alone is a kind of "art.

some like it, some not.

as a graphic designer, right now i design packages for different products
in the hope you people buy it instead of the product to the left or right.

everyone is uniqe and have his own art
and that is what makes us Humans, imagine we all would look, think, and work same, horrible!