Let the ****ing and moaning begin

[Valkyrie]

I didn't plan this one. I showed up and died and I am not very happy. I think the B-25 vs A6m2 is a mismatch and we didn't have any chance. All I want is a fighting chance and last night sure as hell was not one. End of rant. At least over Europe you have a decent airplane and a chance to live. Out here if you fly the B-25 your going to die period. You might just as well crash the plane on takeoff after t+30 and go to the ma.


Vlkyrie1

[REP0MAN]

I didn't plan it either Val. Nor did any of the UNFORGIVEN. As Shreck pointed out, they bounced your initial attackers. The P40B is not much of a match for Zekes with Alt. I was out, on the deck, finding your targets. We managed to find them but got bum rushed soon after. Without my wingman and I, the 5th AF may not have even seen a boat this frame. I hope at least some found the target and scored a few hits. I apologize that the UNFORGIVEN could not have helped out more.

<S>

[Valkyrie]

I apologize to UNF, I just hate dieing especially after flying around for 50 min briefing for 40min, and not being able to make other plans for nothing. And then even if the escort had been better it wouldn't have changed the result.


<S>
Vlkyrie1

[Simaril]

Valkyrie --

One thing about FSO's took me a little time to get used to. Although a lot of people think about "winning" in the MA, or even the less frequent scenarios, in FSO's the emphasis is more on the experience, the immersion, and the people. To be honest, 90% of the time after a 3-frame FSO I have no idea who "won." For what it's worth, I flew a B25C, got to drop my bombs as a horde of zekes jumped our formation over their base, and promptly died. (I didn't bail, and enjoyed watching how stinking many zekes made passes on my twisting fuselage trying to steal someone else's kill!)

Although things are usually balanced, some frames may swing very heavily toward one side or another thanks to mismatches, planning defects, or imperfect execution. In our squad, if we have a bad outcome we just go to the MA after we exit FSO, and blow stuff up in there. Also, unlike the MA, dying in here usually doesn't mean you messed soemthing up -- so relax and remember that most times things swing right back your way next frame.

And if they don't, remember this: As one of my squaddies puts it -- "some nights you're the bird, and some nights you're the statue."

[AKKaz]

Understand the frustration.......
But things sometimes look a certain way from the way events tend to work also.

The B5N's are solely dependant on their escorts to accomplish their target hit, they seem to be equal with the 25's in this regard.  As the fighter matchup, the zeke does outmanuveur the 40, but had many cases the 40's just outran the zekes and came back with slashing passes.  In this frame, the ones that got hit by us were the ones that either decided to turn fight the zekes or got caught lower allowing us to dive with speed and E. Could have went either way depending on the initial engagement and the circumstances in the beginning of the engagement.

[RATTFINK]

Here ya go...

[GGhost]

Well the 79th Fighter Group was at sector 8/11. The CV radar got destroyed and hits where made on the CV guns and the deck. But the CV did not go down.

Just to bad for the allies, we were just was doing our what they wanted in our orders. To protect the CV. And that is what we did. Yes we did do some air patrols. And yes the CV was covered at all times.

We would like to thank the other squadrons - (FATE, Arabian Knights, 880 Sqn, & 325th) for helping too on there return flight to the CV.

I think on our CV we where also missing one squadron for CV protection and air cover. So we did our job to the full extent. Allot of us didn't make it back either. Air - Sea Rescue was sent out for us also.

A nice touch of would be to enabling the CV guns for down pilots. Just open them up when the air battle begins.

But we still had a good time over all.

Thanks for letting us enjoy this FSO as the 79th FG. - <S> GGhost 

[Valkyrie]

B5n and other planes that suck get second lives

[ghostdancer]

Only plane that gets a second life in this event is the B5N2.

[Bannor]

< > GGHost. We had fun. I will say I was put in charge of turning the cv. I rarely do this in the MA and I was multi-tasking trying to get it done right in the beginning. I think I may have caused the deaths of 1 or 2 pilots in the turning of the cv early in the frame, and for that I apologize. I give credit to the defenders on saving the cv from any more damage. We flashed a couple more times in the frame, but you guys kept anything from getting close. WTG!

[Getback]

I had an observation (not a complaint at all) I was thinking about the p40s. I think there real strength is the ability to dive. Learned that today when 50cals shot me down in my diving p47. You know with the low cloud cover and fog that really favors the zero and takes away a major advantage of the p40. Had these thoughts while watching Dogfights on the History Channel. (but you guys probably already knew that)

[Saxman]

I disagree, Getback. Even with the cloud cover there's more than enough air underneath for the P-40s to get out of dodge. On one or two occasions in Frame 2 I still had to back off when the opponent I was chasing (P-40s and F4Fs) went nose down or risk ripping my plane apart despite the low operating altitude.

[Getback]

I disagree, Getback. Even with the cloud cover there's more than enough air underneath for the P-40s to get out of dodge. On one or two occasions in Frame 2 I still had to back off when the opponent I was chasing (P-40s and F4Fs) went nose down or risk ripping my plane apart despite the low operating altitude.

Ah rgr, you may be right. I had to back off while chasing an f4f but that was through the clouds. Didn't have that opportunity below the clouds. That's good info. I'll use that to my advantage.

[Arlo]

How many pilots for the frame? FSO is one helluva happening party, it sounds. I may hafta invest my Fridays (while I have them). And 50 minutes wasted a week? I "waste" more than that dying while typing text or doing doughnuts on the field with AH buddies nearby asking for more songs on vox from Elvis (aka me). At least I'm pretty sure the were asking for more. 

[ROC]

Hi Arlo!

I think we topped 420 for the last frame.  Decent turnout, I think you'll like the events.