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Offline kilz

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Vista SP1
« on: March 24, 2008, 11:31:01 AM »
anyone useing the new service pack with VISTA (Vista SP1)? If you are got any insites on how its doing with the new service pack???????????????????????????????????????????
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Re: Vista SP1
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2008, 11:56:31 AM »
Takes awhile to download and install. Resets some of your settings to default, on mine i had to reset all my sound setting and video settings. Also here is the garbage i found intalled with it so definately run adaware and spyware doctor after installing it?  It installed 1 cookie, 1 ad generator, and 52 adaware alerts. :mad:

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Re: Vista SP1
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2008, 12:36:43 PM »
WOW thats a lot of junk for a download, is that normal? anyone else having this problem too.
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Re: Vista SP1
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2008, 05:40:59 PM »
Well me being stupid with Vista....wouldnt the service pack automatically download and install in windows update?

Saw it may help saving battery power reading the changes.

Disappointed that nothing been done to fix AMD dual core bug.
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Re: Vista SP1
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2008, 10:29:39 PM »
that sucks Hoarach there a lot of AMD dual cores out there.
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Re: Vista SP1
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2008, 02:45:55 AM »
I've heard a lot of complaints about SP1 porking Vista installations (that is, if there's anything left to pork).
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Re: Vista SP1
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2008, 04:15:56 AM »
I've heard a lot of complaints about SP1 porking Vista installations (that is, if there's anything left to pork).

You have heard also that it works fine when I installed it.
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Re: Vista SP1
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2008, 06:45:47 AM »
It really appears to depend on the applications you have installed as to whether or not SP1 will make a mess or not.

Like someone else said, it does reset a bunch of configuration information, which can tamper with some applications.  It does break non-Vista version specific virus scanners from Norton and McAfee as they can no longer patch the kernel in order to work.  Microsoft has finally provided an API for them to use.

The AMD clock issue will not be fixed by Microsoft and as the kernel can no longer be reliably patched (MS will correct any attempt to patch the kernel) it is doubtful the clock issue in the ADM dual core CPU's will be corrected unless AMD fixes the hardware. 

The power management features, in Vista, for laptops wrecks game play.  I am not sure how much of it can be disabled at this time.  Someone with a laptop and Vista will need to answer that.

From where I sit, Microsoft did not address enough issues with SP1, for some odd reason.  Maybe SP2 will be the good patch.
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Re: Vista SP1
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2008, 06:46:57 AM »
You have heard also that it works fine when I installed it.

You are with the group of people who didn't have problems. There's another group who did have major problems including BSOD and repeated reboot cycle.
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Re: Vista SP1
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2008, 07:20:02 AM »
So far it is looking good on this system. I have been playing some old ancient games that I was able to coax into life and they are still working. Occasionally I get some odd screens where the colors go all goofy but nothing really bad. BTW these games are 1998-2002 games and there names escaped from the locked memory box just now.

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Re: Vista SP1
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2008, 07:26:07 PM »
hmmmmmmmmm sounds like SP1 is coming up short i will keep waiting till they have  the better vista out for use.
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Re: Vista SP1
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2008, 01:09:25 AM »
I'm currently writing a 4900 word article about SP1. And I really mean it - deadline is in two days, and here I am reading the forum instead. Talk about procrastination...

Anyway, I've installed it on quite a few machines and did my own benchmarks on both slow and fast machines, and I've read perhaps dozens of other test reports.

Since you're friends and we're all casual here, I won't sugar-coat my opinion.

I'm pretty disappointed with Windows Vista.

I'm slightly less disappointed with with Vista when SP1 is installed.

Assuming it doesn't Fubar your machine (and the reports of it doing so are being very highly publicized way out of proportion to the actual percentage of messed up machines), you can count on noticeable (though not hugely significant) improvements in file copying and moving and network operations, battery life in notebooks, startup and shutdown times, and hibernation (which now causes less weirdness than it used to when the system comes back). Somewhat large strides have been made at improving printer driver compatibility. There's now a solid API for Symantec and McAfee to talk to the Kernel without needing to patch it. There's full support for 802.11 draft N wireless networking.

XP's SP2 was a huge change to its base OS, but Vista's SP1 is more like XP's SP1 or 2000's SP1 and SP2: minor improvements all around but no significantly large new features.

On the OS Satisfaction Scale, calibrated to Windows XP being a 100 (and it is a little strange to say that):
Vista without SP1 is around a 60.
Vista with SP1 is around a 70.

Call it moving from a D grade to a C grade in my book. That's a worthy improvement, though still not a stellar grade.

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Re: Vista SP1
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2008, 07:17:14 AM »
Sounds fair llama.  Performance and compatibility issues aside.  The nagging inconsistencies still eat me alive, from a support perspective.

I am a pretty conservative person when it comes to computers.  I need them to work logically without surprises being thrown in the works.  Vista with SP1 still does not satisfy that criteria.
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Re: Vista SP1
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2008, 06:15:44 PM »
I am a pretty conservative person when it comes to computers.  I need them to work logically without surprises being thrown in the works.

That rules out Vista whether SP1 is installed or not.  ;)

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Re: Vista SP1
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2008, 07:30:51 PM »
LOL
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