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Offline mietla

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What does the word "racist" mean.
« on: March 25, 2008, 01:45:57 AM »
Over and over the word racist is used and abused and as a result it lost all gravity and meaning.

What is your definition of a racist?

    * one who acknowledges that that are some genetic differences between the "races" (be it purely an apearence or deep inside like being immune to certain diseases)
    *...
    * I'm not a racist but I do not want my daughter to marry outside my "race"
    * ...
    * one who thinks that everyone who is of a different race than they are should be discriminated against/suppressed/enslaved/or even killed.

Obviously no one would argue the first bullet, and a very few would embrace the last.

What is your definition?

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Re: What does the word "racist" mean.
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2008, 01:48:06 AM »
Obama. Has to be. Seen it said here so many times it must be true. Use him as your perfect example.  ;)

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Re: What does the word "racist" mean.
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2008, 01:51:52 AM »
Arlo, you are just tiresome. Say something of substance or lay off.


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Re: What does the word "racist" mean.
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2008, 01:54:56 AM »
And my original post is sincere. I'd appreciate honest and genuine post. The lame attempts on sarcasm are just that.. lame.



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Re: What does the word "racist" mean.
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2008, 02:02:34 AM »
I'd say that none of your bullet points hit it...in fact they're way beyond what I'd consider base racism.
To me racist would be judging anyone, not having interacted with them, just based on their race.

Doesn't seem that complex to me.
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Re: What does the word "racist" mean.
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2008, 02:22:04 AM »
I'd say that none of your bullet points hit it...in fact they're way beyond what I'd consider base racism.
To me racist would be judging anyone, not having interacted with them, just based on their race.

Doesn't seem that complex to me.

would you apply this to other characteristics? like country or origin? a continent? man who wear mascara? women that are masculine? gay people? transsexual people?

Obviously, you are right, you can't (and should not) make a judgement on someone's appearence but what you should (if ever) go for)?


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Re: What does the word "racist" mean.
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2008, 02:58:53 AM »
This is a tireless and useless thread.
'Pick a different subject."
You are wasting my time.
Trolling?

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Re: What does the word "racist" mean.
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2008, 03:11:44 AM »
Arlo, you are just tiresome. Say something of substance or lay off.




Something of substance or lay off.

Most here should know the definition of racist. Some here would like to apply it at their convenience and with somewhat of a double standard. May I never.

I've been color blind to race my whole life. :)
« Last Edit: March 25, 2008, 03:15:01 AM by Arlo »

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Re: What does the word "racist" mean.
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2008, 03:14:13 AM »
Can you lil girls take this to PM's and not waste time making a thread of this crap?

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Re: What does the word "racist" mean.
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2008, 03:15:51 AM »
Their/ours to waste. As is yours for policing this thread. :)

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Re: What does the word "racist" mean.
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2008, 03:17:46 AM »
would you apply this to other characteristics? like country or origin? a continent? man who wear mascara? women that are masculine? gay people? transsexual people?

Not for "racism." Racism is a prejudice against a race. If what you're prejudiced against can be defined as a "race" then it's racism. Nascar an exception.

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Re: What does the word "racist" mean.
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2008, 03:24:12 AM »
would you apply this to other characteristics? like country or origin? a continent? man who wear mascara? women that are masculine? gay people? transsexual people?

Obviously, you are right, you can't (and should not) make a judgement on someone's appearence but what you should (if ever) go for)?

Dicrimination based upon the behavior of the individual is okay, otherwize we couldn't incarcerate bank robbers.
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Re: What does the word "racist" mean.
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2008, 03:54:32 AM »
Discrimination based upon the behavior of the individual is okay in some instances, otherwise we couldn't incarcerate bank robbers.

Hope you didn't mind the edit/clarification (if it accurately describes your stance).

The word discrimination versus the word prejudice seems almost an exercise in rationalization. Behavior includes more than criminal behavior. And even defined "criminal behavior" can be immorally prejudiced.

"The word prejudice refers to prejudgment: making a decision before becoming aware of the relevant facts of a case or event. The word has commonly been used in certain restricted contexts, particularly in the expression 'racial prejudice'. Initially this referred to making a judgment about a person based on their race, before receiving information relevant to the particular issue on which a judgment was being made; it came, however, to be widely used to refer to any hostile attitude towards people based on their race. Subsequently the word has come to be widely so interpreted in this way in contexts other than those relating to race. The meaning now is frequently 'any unreasonable attitude that is unusually resistant to rational influence'.[1] Race, gender, ethnic, sexual identity, age, and religion have a history of in citing prejudicial behavior."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice

" Discrimination on grounds such as race or religion, is generally illegal in most Western democracies, while discriminating between people on the grounds of merit is usually lawful. The latter is more commonly referred to as "differentiating." When unlawful discrimination takes place, it is often described as discrimination against a person or group of people."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination




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Re: What does the word "racist" mean.
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2008, 03:57:39 AM »
Does accepting this:
"one who acknowledges that that are some genetic differences between the "races" (be it purely an apearence or deep inside like being immune to certain diseases)" make one a racist.

Anyway, I must be a racist, I absolutely loath neo-nazis :D
(And if my daughters get hooked up with one sometime far in the future, the poor soal is in for either a brainwash, or a flying lesson...down the stairs!)
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Re: What does the word "racist" mean.
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2008, 04:15:04 AM »
would you apply this to other characteristics? like country or origin? a continent? man who wear mascara? women that are masculine? gay people? transsexual people?

Obviously, you are right, you can't (and should not) make a judgement on someone's appearence but what you should (if ever) go for)?



If I ever find the likes of you hanging around my childrens school.. .