funeral-picking

[Jackal1]

But the right to protest on public property, without trespassing or otherwise violating ordinances currently in place, is what is being outlawed in Kansas

I could have sworn it was about funeral protests.
Cemetery=private property
Funeral home=private property

[AWMac]

Served my 20.
I'd gladly beat the bellybutton of a protester at a funeral.
Kinda brings their handsomehunkes closer to home.

Mac

[Airhead]

A cemetary is private property.

Airhead...Double standard is thy name.

If the issue were about protesting on private property then it'd be a moot point, because we don't have the right to protest on someone else's private property...Obviously we're talking about otherwise legal protest, right?  What this bill does is limit what is actually being protested based upon the nature of that protest- we are banning this type of protest because we deem it offensive.

I don't see how I'm applying a double standard either, Rip- I agree with peoples' right to protest in a peaceful and lawful manner, and in the school assembly thread I also agreed with the principal's right to deem what is, and isn't, appropiate subjects to address at school assemblies.

You're trying to compare apples and oranges.

[AWMac]

To protest at the funeral of "anyone" is wrong. I'll piss on Jane Fondas grave after the dirt is cold. NOT during the funeral.

If you are so into yourself to think that "Freedom of Speech" covers yer bellybutton to protest at a befallen soldier, then yer bellybutton better understand my "Right to bear Arms". 

I'll chase yer bellybutton to yer car and I hope you squeal as you run.

Mac

[Roundeye]

Broken down simple like:

Problem




Solution


http://www.patriotguard.org/

[Airhead]

well, I am disappointed....all I got were a few "yes, but it's so tasteless to protest at funerals" kinda posts (plus a couple of nonsensical i'll-beat-up-the protester ones) and I didn't get a discussion about the Bill of Rights.

I was hoping 2nd amendment Lazs would weigh in- after all, limiting protest is as much an assault on our 1st amendment rights as banning a bayonet lug on a rifle is an assault on his second amendment rights...or maybe a comment from Toad, who was so quick to condemn no knock warrant service as a violation of the 4th amendment...

But I guess when it all comes down to it we're only intrested in protecting the rights of- ourselves. If it's an issue that doesn't affect us personally then it doesn't matter to us.

(shrug) Anyways thanks for the discussion, such as it was.

[midnight Target]

Agree completely Airhead.

It is kinda funny how many in here will voice thier contempt for ANY restrictions on a right to bear arms but will find restrictions or infringements on many other rights simply common sense.

[AKIron]

I find it contradictory that some will speak up for the right of people to protest at funerals but think a school is justifed in shutting off the mic of an invited speaker when she gets too christian. <insert old rolleyes here>

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Maybe those should do less lecturing and more practicing?

[midnight Target]

See, now you want to restrict my right to freedom of religion.

[AKIron]

See, now you want to restrict my right to freedom of religion.

Only if it entails yelling epithets at funerals. I would restrict that part of it. Letting a person who has earned the right to speak at her graduation ceremony, unlike you and some others here in the past, that I would allow.

[Jackal1]

Broken down simple like:

Solution
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http://www.patriotguard.org/

 

Yep.....and it is much more than shielding the families from  the total idiots who protest at funerals.
Much, much more.
Check it out and get involved folks.

[AKIron]

Some of you need to try to put yourself in the place of one of these parents who just lost their child in this war. Shielding them from these lunatics is everyone's responsibilty. Organizing the Patriot Guard to do this is a good thing. However, is it really all that different from asking the police to do it?

[Jackal1]

Some of you need to try to put yourself in the place of one of these parents who just lost their child in this war. Shielding them from these lunatics is everyone's responsibilty. Organizing the Patriot Guard to do this is a good thing. However, is it really all that different from asking the police to do it?

Some places there are not enough police officers to go around.
There are plenty of us. 

[AKIron]

If they pass the law there it won't take many police to handle the situation, maybe none. I think these people are cowards and won't risk jail time for their "convictions". Let them go protest in front of the gay bars or abortion clinics.

[Airhead]

However, is it really all that different from asking the police to do it?

Yes- it is a world of difference. The Patriot Guard holding a counter demonstration is more of a peer pressure situation- the Government banning protest is an official edict.

I agree 100% with those of you who say people protesting at funerals are tasteless, despicible, subhuman or whatever other name you wish to call them- I could never imagine being a party to deliberately causing pain to someone who has lost a child, at that most sensitive of time.

It is the worst incarnation of our first amendment rights- which means it is the form of free speech we must protect, as a society, the most.It's easy to defend that which you agree with, because you're thinking with your heart. It's much harder to defend that which you disagree with, because you have to think with your mind.