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Re: funeral-picking
« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2008, 11:07:08 AM »
Maybe you weren't around here a year or so ago Airhead, maybe you were. There was a situation wherein a graduating student was giving her Valedictorian speech and had her microphone cut off because she began to express her faith which she claimed as the reason for her success in school. If you are with the school, ACLU, and a few others here who believe this was not a violation of her constitutional right to freedom of speech then anything you have to say on the matter of free speech is as sounding brass to me.   
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Re: funeral-picking
« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2008, 11:23:45 AM »
Ah...no, I was in O'Club prison last year and missed it- A few years ago in Oroville, Ca.(I think it was), they had warned a HS validvictorian against mentioning God in her speech...it caused a bit of controversery leading up to graduation.  She approached the podium, and sneezed- and the entire audiance responded with a "God Bless you." I heard that on Paul Harvey, so it may or may not be true.


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Re: funeral-picking
« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2008, 11:32:36 AM »
There is such a thing as "protected speech" and speech that is not protected. Inciting to riot is one example of non protected speech as well as yelling fire in a theater, libeling others, disturbing the operation of a school and sedition. While it sounds rather noble to say all speech should be free it's a bit naive to really believe it.

You are free to criticise the govt. and that is what the first amendment was really about. The ability to make your grievances with the government heard by the government, not to belittle, denigrate, besmirch, or libel a fallen soldier and offend the family of the deceased service member during their funeral.
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Re: funeral-picking
« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2008, 11:41:00 AM »
Another  overlooked benefit, for the most part, in the family`s request for PGR participation over the bringing in of uniformed Police officers in numbers is simple.
The funeral protesters will, on many occasions, make it a point to have arrests made for a certain number of participants.
Pictures and stories in the newspapers is their cup of tea.
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Re: funeral-picking
« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2008, 11:43:19 AM »
Maverick, I agree and understand with the first part of your post but I disagree with the second part of your post and will bet the ACLU will challenge this all the way to the Supreme Court the moment it's signed into law.


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Re: funeral-picking
« Reply #50 on: March 29, 2008, 01:36:17 PM »
well, I am disappointed....all I got were a few "yes, but it's so tasteless to protest at funerals" kinda posts (plus a couple of nonsensical i'll-beat-up-the protester ones) and I didn't get a discussion about the Bill of Rights.

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Re: funeral-picking
« Reply #51 on: March 29, 2008, 02:30:23 PM »
Maverick, I agree and understand with the first part of your post but I disagree with the second part of your post and will bet the ACLU will challenge this all the way to the Supreme Court the moment it's signed into law.



Let them challenge.  Even if they win, there will always be more of us (PGR members) there than those terrorists.

I still cannot understand the logic of someone protesting the funeral of someone who GAVE THEIR LIFE protecting their right to protest. :rolleyes:  Can someone PLEASE explain that one to me?

Those soldiers are the ONLY reason those protesters are not fed feet-first into a wood chipper in this country for doing such a despicable act as protest the funeral of it's nation's fallen soldiers.  Go figure.
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Re: funeral-picking
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Re: funeral-picking
« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2008, 05:53:36 PM »
No law required, just more Patriot Guard riders. :")
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« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2008, 05:57:41 PM »
Yup--member PGR of VA :aok

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Re: funeral-picking
« Reply #55 on: March 29, 2008, 07:59:39 PM »
PGR of AZ. and anyplace else we happen to be if a mission comes up.
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Re: funeral-picking
« Reply #56 on: March 29, 2008, 08:02:10 PM »
Amen

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Re: funeral-picking
« Reply #57 on: March 29, 2008, 08:51:45 PM »
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Re: funeral-picking
« Reply #58 on: March 29, 2008, 09:20:07 PM »
I want them to keep picketing funerals of the the soldiers. If the keep it up one of the relative of the fallen soldiers are going to go postal on them. I just hope if that happens, the person is a good shot and has extra magazines.
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Re: funeral-picking
« Reply #59 on: March 29, 2008, 09:39:37 PM »
I want them to keep picketing funerals of the the soldiers. If the keep it up one of the relative of the fallen soldiers are going to go postal on them. I just hope if that happens, the person is a good shot and has extra magazines.

Tell me you really don't want to see that.  You have no idea what you're saying.
I'm the father of a severly wounded soldier, and the mental anquish of that was enough. I can't imagine what the anquish is of a parent who's child doesn't return at all.
Even worse how much anquish they suffered to be pushed to the point of going postal. You're wishing for the worst a parent has to endure to degrade even furthur.

To all you PGR guys Thank You I never knew we had so many in the AH community. The PGR visited my son a couple of times in the hospital.
They also escorted a fallen soldier's funeral here in our town in Sept 2006.

My heartfelt thanks to all you PGR guys.
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