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Offline humble

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Re: CAP
« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2008, 11:10:24 PM »
I'm always a bit confused by this arguement. There are a number of exceptional planes with an ENY of 30 or above. On those very rare occasions it gets into the 30's #'s are so far out of whack you cant find anything to kill anyway. I never log because we're out numbered...only when we have too many.

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Re: CAP
« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2008, 11:29:54 PM »
Eny works great....
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Re: CAP
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2008, 01:45:50 AM »
im still a big advocate of ENY not ELIMINATING aircraft, just adding a perk value to previously free ones..

I.E. if you want to fly a 5 ENY plane, and ENY is at 5, it costs you 1 perkies, if its at 6, it costs you 2.. etc  and so on and so forth..

that way there is still a limiting factor, if you want to fly a low ENY plane at all times, its gonna cost ya,  but at the same time, you can always fly whatever ya want. ( just better make sure you can afford losing it)

Doh. Can you ever read? I will repost hitech's words once again specially for you.

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Also any other change I would add to effect country balance would be more limiting than the current system not less.

So, if you want adding perks to planes as ENY grows, it will probably looks like this: ENY = 3-4, planes with ENY 5 got perked; ENY >= 5, planes with ENY 5 got disabled and so on. Do you really want it?  :rofl
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Re: CAP
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2008, 10:57:00 AM »
It isnt that complicated im not saying get rid of the ENY all im saying is drop the maximum ENY number to 15 dont let it climb so high yes its a game and evening out the sides are a good thing but when one sides working together and hittin on all cylinders takeing bases why punish them because the other sides cant stand their ground and fight ,they seem to feel leaveing the arena and causeing ENY numbers to climb to rediculous numbers is a good thing. I feel like im preaching to the choir.

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« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2008, 11:15:26 AM »
well, if you don't let it climb, then you are effectively doing nothing to balance sides...so basically outnumbering someone by 200 would have the same effect as outnumbering someone by 100.  Doesn't really seem to make much sense if your goal is to level the playing field a bit.  The idea of adding perks instead of disabling a plane might work, but only if it grew exponetially.  5-10 perks is nothing. If you had 1000, thats 100 lost planes, not exactly a motivator...add to that huge number advantage, it might actually be hard to lose a plane, thus making that form useless.  Of course if you add higher eny, some maybe a spit16 is 200 perks, might be effective, but then again would probably have a very similar outcome as the current form of eny.  Not to mention, you still might have to pay for planes that are free under when eny in effect.  As to capping eny, you are basically asking to reduce the only measure AH has to encourage fair play. 

I will never understand the argument that somehow the team with huge number advantage, is somehow the underdog in all this.  There are plenty of planes that can get the job done, and you can still put many more of them up against the rest of the arena.  Also you should have plenty of people to watch your back.
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Re: CAP
« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2008, 11:18:29 AM »
It isnt that complicated im not saying get rid of the ENY all im saying is drop the maximum ENY number to 15 dont let it climb so high

I think there is just underlying assumption that planes with ENY>15 are crap. So crappy, that no numerical superiority can offset it.

And you are very very wrong with that.


But eith a constant k/D of ~ 0.25 for several tours, the actual plane you are in might not matter at all  ;)
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« Reply #36 on: March 28, 2008, 11:22:43 AM »
I wish we could man the trees..... wow imagine the kills.
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Re: CAP
« Reply #37 on: March 28, 2008, 11:29:43 AM »
I think there is just underlying assumption that planes with ENY>15 are crap. So crappy, that no numerical superiority can offset it.

And you are very very wrong with that.


But eith a constant k/D of ~ 0.25 for several tours, the actual plane you are in might not matter at all  ;)

You hit the nail squarely on the head here, for a plane/numbers dependent pilot there's a fine line where you have both the "better" plane and enough of an edge in localized numbers to "score" well. As the edge in numbers you need grows then you have an ENY issue....but only if you lost your preferred ride. After all if ENY goes up all you need to do is hit the rearm pad.

Whats so funny here is that the 109F might just be the best perk farmer in the game and at a lower ENY the yak might just be the best plane in the game period at typical AH alts.

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Re: CAP
« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2008, 11:43:26 AM »
I guess the only time ENY ever erks me is when I can't up my 20 eny P38-J.  I usually fall back into the 109 series of planes then and those 109s are DEADLY!  If it gets above that, well, my kite works pretty good too.   :D
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Re: CAP
« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2008, 11:50:55 AM »
It isnt that complicated im not saying get rid of the ENY all im saying is drop the maximum ENY number to 15 dont let it climb so high yes its a game and evening out the sides are a good thing but when one sides working together and hittin on all cylinders takeing bases why punish them because the other sides cant stand their ground and fight ,they seem to feel leaveing the arena and causeing ENY numbers to climb to rediculous numbers is a good thing.

So, what you seem to be saying is that "fair" game play is okay as long as it doesn't interfere with you beating the crap outta someone with your numbers? BTW, the ENY mod doesn't "punish" anyone. It encourages horde monkeys to stop rubbing each other's bottoms and spread out! :)

I feel like im preaching to the choir.

Funny, I feel like I'm preaching to a brick wall.  :D
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« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2008, 12:24:59 PM »
It isnt that complicated im not saying get rid of the ENY all im saying is drop the maximum ENY number to 15 dont let it climb so high...


All this so you can outnumber the arena 10 to 1 and still fly your La-7s.  Sad.



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Re: CAP
« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2008, 12:28:46 PM »

All this so you can outnumber the arena 10 to 1 and still fly your La-7s.  Sad.



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Re: CAP
« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2008, 01:18:43 PM »
I figure it's the quality of the pilot that matters more than the plane. Maybe something could be worked out where the pilot's ranking could figure in. No ENY over 15 for anyone though. It would be a nightmare to get stuck in a P40 B just as vctory appears within reach. Nothing against the P40 B. Ibeen shot down by enough of them to have nightmares ,it's just has no snap except when you spend E.

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« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2008, 01:59:54 PM »
Wonders how that is a nightmare. Just get your 9 other buddies and go teach that lone dweeb plane a lesson in math.
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Re: CAP
« Reply #44 on: March 28, 2008, 02:24:10 PM »
I figure at my skill level I would only need two.