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Offline nick172

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P-47
« on: March 27, 2008, 11:53:06 AM »
Ok what does the p47d-25 have over the 40? Been flying the 40 a little latly and cnnot figure out why I would fly the 25.

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Re: P-47
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2008, 01:08:46 PM »
Slight decrease in turn radius, IIRC.

Not an equal risk-reward when compared to speed and acceleration lost.

Kinda like people who fly the G14 over the K4.  Inferior A/C, all things considered, they just like it.

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Re: P-47
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2008, 01:28:06 PM »
So far as I can see from DokGonzo's performance charts http://gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php, the 40 has slightly stronger WEP than the 25, otherwise they are equal (it's barely enough to notice).  Perhaps the 40 has better ordinance packages?

Btw, the reason why some fly the G-14 instead of the K-4 is the MG-151 instead of the MK-108.  Against tougher opposition who don't let you get within 200 yards for a shot, the MG-151 is far more useful.  So for fighter-vs-fighter work, the G-14's weapons package really is better.  It's only for baby-seal-clubbing that the K-4 is better. ;)
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Re: P-47
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2008, 01:56:58 PM »
Slight decrease in turn radius, IIRC.

Not an equal risk-reward when compared to speed and acceleration lost.

Kinda like people who fly the G14 over the K4.  Inferior A/C, all things considered, they just like it.

The G-14 climbs better and turns better and has more guns than the K-4. The K-4 maybe faster but how does that make the G-14 inferior?
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Re: P-47
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2008, 02:12:07 PM »
The G-14 climbs better and turns better and has more guns than the K-4. The K-4 maybe faster but how does that make the G-14 inferior?

It either climbs & turns a tad better, or it has more guns. Taking the gondolas adds weight and drag.

And note that while in clean configuration the G14 has a smaller turning radius, the turn rate (degrees/second) is actually pretty much the same. The K-4 has a higher sustained turning speed.
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Re: P-47
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2008, 02:23:15 PM »
It either climbs & turns a tad better, or it has more guns. Taking the gondolas adds weight and drag.

And note that while in clean configuration the G14 has a smaller turning radius, the turn rate (degrees/second) is actually pretty much the same. The K-4 has a higher sustained turning speed.

Right but without the gondolas you have a the single 20mm which depending on personal preference has more fire power not in damage caused by the rounds but how many rounds actually hit the target. I don't know how the gun packages compare in weight, i would think the 20mm is lighter.

Out of curiosity you wouldn't happen to know the stall speed clean config. with a full fuel load?

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Re: P-47
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2008, 02:31:41 PM »

 I don't know how the gun packages compare in weight, i would think the 20mm is lighter.

20mm /200rnds package is 89lbs lighter than the MK108 loadout.

And no, don't have exact numbers on stall speeds right now.
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Re: P-47
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2008, 03:52:27 PM »
Ok what does the p47d-25 have over the 40?
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Re: P-47
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2008, 08:18:43 PM »
the difrance between a 25 and 40 to me is what i feel like doing for the 25 seems like a better dogfighter and the 40 is a beter attacker
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Re: P-47
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2008, 01:30:38 AM »
-40 is the better plane performance-wise.  I prefer the D-25 because it has better skins...seriously...
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Re: P-47
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2008, 08:26:43 AM »
D-25 has the Gabreski camoflauge scheme. 

Next question. 


Seriously- it's a bit lighter, so it maneuvers a bit easier, but it carries a little less fuel, and can't climb as good.
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Re: P-47
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2008, 12:35:21 PM »
Ok, I like 109s in general. I spent time last night teaching a veteran the airplane last evening. He likes the 109K. So, he took the 109K and I took an La-5FN. After 10 minutes of utter domination by the LaLa, I moved him into the 109G-2. I took a 109G-14. Immediately, he found that the G-2 was easier to fly and started showing improvement. After a little over an hour, he had learned how and when to use flaps, how to maximize the merge and began getting the hang of flying where he was looking, rather than looking where he was flying. My advice was master the G-2, move to and master the G-14 next. Then get back into the 109K-4, where he'll suddenly discover how much easier it is to manage.

As a dogfighter, I prefer the G-14. For pickin' from the vertical, the K-4 is a great bird. Find yourself Co-e against a G-14 and it can ugly should you attempt to maneuver fight.

As to P-47s, I prefer the P-47D-25 to the -40 for aesthetic reasons. It's just a better looking airplane with better skins. It's also lighter, so it's handling is superior. I'll fly the D-40 to pound a GV horde, due to the better climb rate (I'll also take 6 guns and the short clip to maximize climb). But for the simple joy of just flying a Jug, I'll take the D-25 over the rest.

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Re: P-47
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2008, 12:48:52 PM »
What's the difference between the 25 and the 40?

Oh, I'd say about 15...  :devil



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Re: P-47
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2008, 12:58:58 PM »
Ok what does the p47d-25 have over the 40? Been flying the 40 a little latly and cnnot figure out why I would fly the 25.

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Re: P-47
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2008, 04:17:57 PM »

                          I think the 40 is the best bombing platform in the game. But...I havnt flown all the dive bombers yet.
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