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Offline Jackal1

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USMC Vs CHP
« on: March 28, 2008, 08:45:07 AM »
Made my day. :)

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Top this for a speeding ticket. Two California Highway Patrol Officers were conducting speeding enforcement on I-15, just north of the Marine Corps Air Station at Miramar. One of the officers was using a hand held radar device to check speeding vehicles
approaching the crest of a hill.The officers were suddenly surprised when the radar gun began reading 300 miles per hour. The officer attempted to reset the radar gun, but it would not reset and then turned off.
Just then a deafening roar over the treetops revealed that the radar had infact locked on to a USMC F/A-18 Hornet which was engaged in a low flying exercise near the location. Back at the CHP Headquarters the Patrol Captain fired off a complaint to the
USMC Base Commander. The reply came back in true USMC style:Thank you for your letter. We can now complete the file on this incident.You may be interested to know that the tactical computer in the Hornet had
detected the presence of, and subsequently locked on to, your hostile radar equipment and automatically sent a jamming signal back to it, which is why it shut down. Furthermore, an Air-to-Ground missile aboard the fully armed aircraft had
also automatically locked on to your equipment location. Fortunately, the Marine Pilot flying the Hornet recognized the situation for what it was, quickly responded to the missile system alert status and was
able to override the automated defense system before the missile was launched to destroy the hostile radar position. The pilot also suggests you cover your mouths when cussing at them, since the video systems on these jets are very high tech. Sergeant Johnson, the officer
holding the radar gun, should get his dentist to check his left rear molar. It appears the filling is loose. Also, the snap is broken on his holster. Thank you for your concern. Semper Fi.
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Re: USMC Vs CHP
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2008, 09:25:10 AM »
LOL, :aok now that's some good stuff
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Re: USMC Vs CHP
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2008, 09:31:50 AM »
That's new version, usually it's an RAF Harrier or Tornado and two Scottish traffic cops.

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Re: USMC Vs CHP
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2008, 01:34:50 PM »
Made my day. :)

It's a cute story, but it's bullpoop.

The typical approach into Miramar is 240-degrees or thereabouts. Runs perpendicular to I-15... and there really aren't many trees. So the geometry is all wrong. MAP

Radar lock on a handheld doppler unit? The only lock on the unit is the lock on the display to keep the readout from updating.

Automated defense system? Ya know... there's a switch that says "MASTER ARM" and around populated areas you can bet your bellybutton it's set to the OFF position.
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Re: USMC Vs CHP
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2008, 01:47:56 PM »
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LOL at the visible oil stains especially from the 4 engine planes on the far east of the field.



BTW what are the 2 delta winged planes near the middle?

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Re: USMC Vs CHP
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2008, 01:57:33 PM »
1 is definatly an IaI kfir(to the right), we gave a few to the usmc IIRC as agressor a/c. The other odly enough looks like a Swedish draken.
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2008, 01:59:58 PM »
1 is definatly an IaI kfir(to the right), we gave 2-3 to the top gun school IIRC as agressor a/c. The other odly enough looks like a Swedish draken.

That would be my guess. Somewhat surprised to see F-4 Phantoms parked also.
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2008, 02:05:18 PM »
That would be my guess. Somewhat surprised to see F-4 Phantoms parked also.
im guessing its an somewhat old picture.

here you go on the usmc kfir:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Kfir
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Twenty-five modified Kfir-C1s were leased to the US Navy and the US Marine Corps from 1985 to 1989, to act as adversary aircraft in dissimilar air combat training (DACT). These aircraft, designated F-21A Lion, had narrow-span canard foreplanes and a single small rectangular strake on either side of the nose, which improved to a considerable degree the aircraft's manoeuvrability, as well as its handling at low speeds.

The 12 F-21 aircraft leased to the US Navy, painted in a three-tone blue-gray "ghost" scheme, were operated by VF-43, based at NAS Oceana. In 1988 they were returned and replaced by the F-16N. The 13 aircraft leased to the United States Marine Corps were operated by VMFT-401 at Marine Corps Air Station Yuma. In addition to the blue-gray painted aircraft, the USMC also had some F-21s painted in Israeli colors and desert "flogger" schemes. These aircraft were replaced by F-5Es when the F-21s were returned in 1989.

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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2008, 02:36:24 PM »
im guessing its an somewhat old picture.

I'm certain it is, but I doubt it's much older than 1997 or so. The Marines started moving in in 1994 and by the look of the aircraft this is definitely MCAS. Anything older than 1994 or so and you would be looking for Hornets in a lot full of Tomcats.

I was there until 1990 and I don't recall RWY 28 being there at that time.

It's also been awhile, but one of the earlier google maps of Miramar had an F/18 landing on RWY 06.
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2008, 06:11:34 AM »
The other thing is that since there is only one present would it be possible one aircraft was kept for special training purposes?
I can see them using both the kfir and the Draken to play out certain scenarios, to test the recognition abilities of the pilots.
I wonder how many would engage the draken in an intervention scenario where the kfir was playing aggressor against it?
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Re: USMC Vs CHP
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2008, 07:23:37 AM »
Also from the wikipedia article:

...Private / outsourced aggressors

Some aggressor missions do not require dogfighting, but instead involve flying relatively simple profiles to test the target acquisition and tracking capabilities of radars, missiles, and aircraft. Some of these missions are outsourced to private companies that operate ex-military jets or small business jets in the aggressor role. Such aircraft include the L39, Alpha Jet, Hawker Hunter, Saab Draken, Kfir, A-4 Skyhawk, and various models of Lear Jets. Most pilots who fly for these companies have experience flying combat aircraft. Examples of such companies include ATAC USA, Top Aces Combat Support (TACS), Advanced Training Systems International, and Hawker Hunter Aviation.
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Re: USMC Vs CHP
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2008, 09:12:28 AM »
Lol bogus.  Everyone knows the Hornet can't do 300mph below 40,000 feet.

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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2008, 09:27:57 AM »
The typical approach into Miramar is 240-degrees or thereabouts. Runs perpendicular to I-15... and there really aren't many trees. So the geometry is all wrong.

I agree that the story is quite funny but not true. In looking at the photo you posted, while the speed of 300kts is high for this late stage of the landing pattern, the base leg for runway 24 (L/R) clearly runs parallel to the Interstate. It's tough to judge the distance between the two and may be a short approach but still possible.

Very funny story though!

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Re: USMC Vs CHP
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2008, 09:48:41 AM »
Lol bogus.  Everyone knows the Hornet can't do 300mph below 40,000 feet.

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Re: USMC Vs CHP
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2008, 09:54:17 AM »
It's a cute story, but it's bullpoop.

The typical approach into Miramar is 240-degrees or thereabouts. Runs perpendicular to I-15... and there really aren't many trees. So the geometry is all wrong. MAP

Radar lock on a handheld doppler unit? The only lock on the unit is the lock on the display to keep the readout from updating.

Automated defense system? Ya know... there's a switch that says "MASTER ARM" and around populated areas you can bet your bellybutton it's set to the OFF position.
well rain on the funny parade why dont you ! :furious :furious :furious :rofl :rofl :rofl i know it's bullpoop but it is still funny if you can just imagine it for a min. or two!
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