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Offline RATTFINK

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Re: Issue with tonights frame 3
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2008, 01:57:50 AM »
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Re: Issue with tonights frame 3
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2008, 01:58:38 AM »
How many? All A2A? Thats impressive.

we had over 30 guys in the squad & yes, a2a
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Re: Issue with tonights frame 3
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2008, 02:01:16 AM »
AKKaz agreed. All I can really say is that the Japanese put more bombs on target than the Americans did; Roughly 2 to 1 (see above post).

As for air to air kills .. I can't really figure it out with the missing T+43 since I know there was massive and intense fighting between A52 and A48 and also over at A57. I think the strike came in and hit A31 just before T+43 so not sure what it was like over there or at any of the fleets.

C77 lost a CA and CV. C76 got hit by a B25C .. personal from USMC confirmed that and logs show 500 lb hit and my visual inspection showed a lot of guns gone so looks like CV76 took 1/3rd damage.

C51 CV took 2 x 100 lb bombs but looked less beat up that C76 .. so my best guess is fighting at C51 was less intense than at C76 but not sure.

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Re: Issue with tonights frame 3
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2008, 02:01:39 AM »
30 guys is a lot of guys! Wonder what if the Muppets had 30 guys running around in FSO instead of just the 13 we had?  :t :lol
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Re: Issue with tonights frame 3
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2008, 02:02:27 AM »
30...  :lol

I think the only thing to do is have another frame!
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Re: Issue with tonights frame 3
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2008, 02:34:56 AM »

On another note, so far in FSO history what has been the largest number of kills by 1 squad in a FSO frame?

I don't know if this was the largest number by a Squad, but it sure has to rank up there. In frame 3 of Operation Strangle the AK's had 37 kills.
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Re: Issue with tonights frame 3
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2008, 03:14:04 AM »
I know we don't keep this type of stat but I do remember a few years ago a bunch of Nightmare 190's had the honar of waxing a great number of Boston's with a side of Hurripain's. 

At the end of the night we tallied 59 kills.  We never saw too much escort and Bostons pop like zit's.  I don't think thats the best we have done but I remember that one... I scored 11 my myself!  It's been so many years but I'm sure that was far from the best ever... but who care's it's a FSO so it's not the point.

Heck I think Filth landed kills that night... thats how easy it was :)

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Re: Issue with tonights frame 3
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2008, 09:10:23 AM »
our squad wasnt even listed in the squads and none of us showed in the logs and we shot down like 8 planes destroyed a cuple of bomber hanges (2 my self and 1 plane) a cuple of us shot down planes
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Re: Issue with tonights frame 3
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2008, 10:00:26 AM »
Just do your best with the log issue, we'll all live with the outcome. A big THANKS from the Aces & 8s for the amount of work and effort by everyone running the scenario. Kudos to both Allies & Axis sides for fielding so many players.
Now, let's all prepare for the next FSO event.  :aok
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Re: Issue with tonights frame 3
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2008, 10:19:21 AM »
Log - 43 minutes = no score.  Since the frame cannot be scored accurately, one must either discount it or do it over.  Anything else is a disservice to all.
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Re: Issue with tonights frame 3
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2008, 10:28:46 AM »
Believe me guys I know, I know .. I am trying different ways to get data but the glitch basically looks like I lost the first 43 minutes. The ground stuff I can figure out but not the air to air.

So I might just have to score the frame based on ground action.

Also from what I can tell the attack force sent to hit P40 was slaughtered before target. So the defenders of A31 and P40 didn't see as much action.

Heaviest fighting and early fighting seemed to between A52 and A48. Looks like the allied strike to A52 and the Japanese strike to A48 and P40 ran right into each other plus the defending forces of A52 and A48. Fighting rage early and from sectors 5,9  to 8,9 (100 miles of fighting as both strikes tried to punch through each other and the other sides defenders).

So fighting was brutal there.

Not sure how it was around the CVs. In the East was light after the A31 strike got in since the P40 strike was already dead. So the allies out in the east I think had little bit of action and then none.


Too bad about the logs.  Ah, well.  Bits happen, y'know?  ;)

The 12 pilots of JG11 had a very busy time over A31 early in the frame.  As we approached, we spotted seven P-40's patrolling just above us, but they seemed not to see us until we were well into our bombing attack.  Since we were flying A6M2's, we tried to drop all our itty-bitty eggs on just one Bomber Hangar.  Then all hell broke loose.  There were a bunch of P-39's milling around down low in the ack - I think there were one or two Kates low over the base - and those seven P-40's came down to engage us.  I put a bit of damage on a P-40 with a quick snapshot, and then chased down a P-39 and hosed him down with 7.7mm BBs, to no apparent end.  JG11 lost two or three to a combination of ack and air-to-air hits, while downing some two or three of the defenders.  The fight ended up low and in the ack, so JG11 turned back north.  A few P-39's came out after us - perhaps as bait? - but we spotted a gaggle climbing in the distance back over the base, and declined to play into their plan.  During the melee, a flight of B5N Kates made a level bombing attack to good effect.  While I did see one or two P-40's attacking the Kates, my impression was that the IJN fighter sweep leading the Kates in managed to keep the defending CAP pretty much occupied.

As JG11 egressed, we saw several hangars and things burning.  I estimated six structures in flames.

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Re: Issue with tonights frame 3
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2008, 10:30:46 AM »
Well we aren't going to do a do over because the next FSO starts in two weeks.

So your right .. I can either just go with the ground attack results (Japanese 402 and Americans 212) or I can just say .. guys I hope you had fun in frame 3 and don't worry about the score for it.
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Re: Issue with tonights frame 3
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2008, 10:37:26 AM »
Log - 43 minutes = no score.  Since the frame cannot be scored accurately, one must either discount it or do it over.  Anything else is a disservice to all.

Hmmmm...disregard previous post.

Allies stats:         Japanese stats:      
Pilots: 143   Kills: 74   Assists: 36   Pilots: 195   Kills: 99   Assists: 118
Objects Destroyed: 88   Deaths: 76   Landed: 60   Objects Destroyed: 6   Deaths: 52   Landed: 145
Bailed: 3   Captured: 16   Crashed: 8   Bailed: 19   Captured: 7   Crashed: 23
Ditched: 2   Disco'd: 5      Ditched: 8   Disco'd: 5   
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Re: Issue with tonights frame 3
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2008, 10:45:37 AM »
Those stats reflect the fighting from T+43 to end frame.

A significant portion of planes were shot down from T+0 to T+43 including the bulk of the B5N2 losses.
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Re: Issue with tonights frame 3
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2008, 11:23:14 AM »
I know i had 7confermed and i was shown with only 2.
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