Author Topic: Falkland Is.'s under dispute again  (Read 1645 times)

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Re: Falkland Is.'s under dispute again
« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2008, 11:58:46 PM »
I was making a jest, if you didn't get it.  The thought that we should abandon our allies because of the so called Hispanic vote is ridiculous.  Argentina is an aggressor in this case, why should American Hispanics defend them?
well sorry then, it's hard to tell if someone is smiling on the intardnet.  not all people of spanish heratige do.  I certainly don't  last time around my vocal support for britain earned me a few bar fights.  now us older guys just snarl but the issue is the same.  argentines don't consider themselves hispanic anyways they think they are european and tend to look down their aquelinic noses at brown folks like me, until they get a size 11 in the arse. 

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« Reply #46 on: April 04, 2008, 12:05:30 AM »
Sorry about that Storch and Ack-Ack, I should have not said it like that.   :salute
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« Reply #47 on: April 04, 2008, 12:10:39 AM »
Sorry about that Storch and Ack-Ack, I should have not said it like that.   :salute

meh no need to apologize to me.  none of that stuff offends me but I don't let it slide due to my argumentative nature.

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« Reply #48 on: April 04, 2008, 01:48:37 AM »
The US would be under no obligation to help the UK in the event of an Argentine invasion of the Falkland islands, since the Falklands are outside the geographical boundaries of the NATO treaty. Would be rude to deny help though considering what Britain has done for America in the past few years.
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« Reply #49 on: April 04, 2008, 02:03:59 AM »
I've got $50 on the poms! :aok
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« Reply #50 on: April 04, 2008, 03:13:27 AM »
First off, why do people think Hispanics are not European? I traced my Hispanic root all the way to a town in Spain. Spain is part of Europe right? My other roots go to England and Germany.

Now, reading the post some think America OWES England something for helping us in the Middle East. Sure, I think as one of our Greatest allies we should back them up even to the point of military help but we owe you nothing accept being an Ally. This so called "Token" help comment is really an narrow minded view of the situations at that time. The U.S. not only helped England immenselyprior to joining the war but they also helped Germany and Japan in different ways.  This coming from a "Neutral" Nation.

Argentina, just another group of people who decided to elect another leftist nut job. It will be a matter of time before Chavez chimes in for Argentina.

If things were to escalate to the point of war, I would hope we AMERICANS would support, by any means possible, to England even "Token" Weapons and intel.  ;)

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« Reply #51 on: April 04, 2008, 09:40:17 AM »
I think the US owes Britain for not only partaking in the invasion of Iraq despite great opposition in Europe, but also for sticking with America despite all the setbacks and failures.
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Re: Falkland Is.'s under dispute again
« Reply #52 on: April 04, 2008, 09:45:46 AM »
Xargos that dam ignorance is pathetic I am Chilean/American so your statment is flaud :cry about it

Can you point out where that is on the globe??

I myself am American.... not irish, english. american indian american. I can't help but laugh when someone cries about equality and then differentiates theirselves by calling themselves a slash american.
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« Reply #53 on: April 04, 2008, 09:53:09 AM »
Shuffler, Chile is in the Americas.
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« Reply #54 on: April 04, 2008, 09:54:03 AM »
Shuffler, Chile is in the Americas.

Where is chilean america??
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« Reply #55 on: April 04, 2008, 09:59:47 AM »
Where is chilean america??

it's near argentine america.

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« Reply #56 on: April 04, 2008, 07:27:17 PM »
The RAF is still stationed at the Falklands.

This photo was taken of them earlier this week, on the 90th Anniversary of the founding of the RAF:





Tornadoes can now carry long range anti-ship cruise missiles.   I wonder if any of the planes on the Falklands are so equipped?



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« Reply #57 on: April 04, 2008, 08:07:38 PM »
I thought the Tornados were on the short list to be retired and replaced with Eurofighters?


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« Reply #58 on: April 05, 2008, 09:54:14 AM »
F3 stationed at Stanley are air interception variant and carry AIM9, AIM120 and HARM for SEAD. GR4 is the attack variant with ground radar and can carry pretty much any NATO ord you can think of.

Typhoons are currently replacing F3 and the F35 will presumably take over the GR4 role eventually, although we need them most for fleet defense now the Sea Harrier has been retired :(
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Re: Falkland Is.'s under dispute again
« Reply #59 on: April 05, 2008, 10:23:39 AM »
F3 stationed at Stanley are air interception variant and carry AIM9, AIM120 and HARM for SEAD. GR4 is the attack variant with ground radar and can carry pretty much any NATO ord you can think of.

Typhoons are currently replacing F3 and the F35 will presumably take over the GR4 role eventually, although we need them most for fleet defense now the Sea Harrier has been retired :(

Isn't the RN supposed to get a new large CV in the future, though? I saw something about it, not too long ago.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Elizabeth_class_aircraft_carrier

Interesting concepts, of course, but the problem is that neither is the ship in the water, nor are aircraft from it's airwing beyond prototype stage. Since alot of the Falklands' conflict in 1982 depended on the RN, what can they do right now to fix the situation?