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Offline Serenity

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Re: II. Gruppe JG53 Gruppenadjutant Bf-109F-2
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2008, 03:46:13 AM »
Nope Bf.109F-2 had a spinner mounted 15mm and 2 cowl mounted 7mm.  Not kidding about that.  It is why alot of aces like Galland wanted to keep their old Emils up and running. :D

Hmm. Didnt know that! Well, this beautiful bird will have the MG 151 JUST for YOU!  :D

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Re: II. Gruppe JG53 Gruppenadjutant Bf-109F-2
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2008, 10:42:49 AM »
IIRC it was designated MG 151/15

The F4 received the upgrade to the MG 151/20
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Re: II. Gruppe JG53 Gruppenadjutant Bf-109F-2
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2008, 12:38:52 PM »
IIRC it was designated MG 151/15

The F4 received the upgrade to the MG 151/20

How do you like the updated skin? Good enough to submit?

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Re: II. Gruppe JG53 Gruppenadjutant Bf-109F-2
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2008, 02:05:55 AM »
Alright, here is the final release. Assuming there are no more problems I will submit monday, 4-7-08, at 1500 Hawaii time.












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Re: II. Gruppe JG53 Gruppenadjutant Bf-109F-2
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2008, 06:43:42 AM »
Only things I can pick at a glance are that your exhaust stains are wrapping underneath the fuselage. Erase the bottom section of it on the fuselage aft of the wing-root line and you should be fine.

That, and your fuel markers do not have any fuel markings. C3 or B4 or whatever was necessary.

You need to reverse the 'Nicht betreten' on the right radiator flap section, it is mirrored by the skin when it wraps.

Only the right side does this, so just horizontally flip it and you'll be good to go.

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Re: II. Gruppe JG53 Gruppenadjutant Bf-109F-2
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2008, 06:46:16 AM »
Also, your elevator detail has no dimension.

If you're going for the effect that those markings on the elevator surfaces produce you need to shade the insides of the lines on one side in black and the other in white.

Are you going to do the same for the ailerons? The F model had fabric ailerons so I suspect you should need to.

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Re: II. Gruppe JG53 Gruppenadjutant Bf-109F-2
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2008, 10:29:07 AM »
Regarding the exhaust stains, the way you have them is that they touch the wing roots. Only the wings have no exhaust stains on them.

Need to add a little but of it to the wing roots to match the fuselage where they meet, or shift the fuselage exhaust up a bit so it doesn't touch the wing roots.

I suggest the first option.

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Re: II. Gruppe JG53 Gruppenadjutant Bf-109F-2
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2008, 11:13:12 AM »
Alright. Im about to run to school, but Ill fix it when I get home.

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Re: II. Gruppe JG53 Gruppenadjutant Bf-109F-2
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2008, 11:43:17 AM »
Whatever you decide to do with it, you need to fix the pixels that are causing this:



Because that isn't logical. I had the same problem with dirt wrapping on my 109K, it's just a matter of adjusting your perspective on where the 'upper' half of the fuselage ends.

Easy fix, so it's no big deal.
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Re: II. Gruppe JG53 Gruppenadjutant Bf-109F-2
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2008, 07:49:00 PM »
Whatever you decide to do with it, you need to fix the pixels that are causing this:

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Because that isn't logical. I had the same problem with dirt wrapping on my 109K, it's just a matter of adjusting your perspective on where the 'upper' half of the fuselage ends.

Easy fix, so it's no big deal.


Its not oil. Its the mottling just trailing-edge of the wing. I fixed it the first time I made the splotches, but since I redid them all from scratch, I need to do it again. Its a two-second fix of just erasing a little off of the bottom of the splotch.

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Re: II. Gruppe JG53 Gruppenadjutant Bf-109F-2
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2008, 10:10:59 PM »
Heres the bird after the modifications. The color hasnt changed. The ONLY thing ive touched is the elevator and aileron lines, as well as fixing the line under the fuselage. I say that because the colors look different to me on this computer, so they might look different to you all as well.








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Re: II. Gruppe JG53 Gruppenadjutant Bf-109F-2
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2008, 07:15:54 AM »
I don't know... the frame lines on the rudder now look like straight black. Maybe a layer got switched or not turned off?

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Re: II. Gruppe JG53 Gruppenadjutant Bf-109F-2
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2008, 10:32:10 PM »
I don't know... the frame lines on the rudder now look like straight black. Maybe a layer got switched or not turned off?

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I accidentally bumped opacity on that layer back up to 100. Its fixed though, back to what it was before.

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Re: II. Gruppe JG53 Gruppenadjutant Bf-109F-2
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2008, 12:33:48 AM »
Looks great so far....
I cn't wait to get my paws on that skin. :aok

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Re: II. Gruppe JG53 Gruppenadjutant Bf-109F-2
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2008, 01:39:26 AM »
I also think that the black in your underwing crosses is a little too soft.

Good job on not making it black-as-night but making it a little darker would probably look a little better.

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