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Offline Masherbrum

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Re: Some Photos of my Namesake
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2008, 07:23:21 PM »
Plasticky guns......bah.
Yeah I know, no quality at all.......Go figure.   

Mine.   Heckler & Koch USP .45.    I've shot lead rounds through it, only two rounds have failed to be fired.   They were "Range ammo" (and not measured properly) and promptly exchanged 2 boxes for Winchester White box.   The range no longer carries them because of too many similar incidents.   



IMO, the finest made (outside of Kimber).
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Offline LTARGlok

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Re: Some Photos of my Namesake
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2008, 01:02:27 AM »
Ok since i don't keep up with gun info. like i used to is there a reason the muzzle brake isn't enclosed to keep with the overall smooth square lines? Something to do with heat dispersion maybe? Also how reliable have you found it to be compared to other models? I've heard that glocks are supposed to be extremely reliable and easy to clean/disassemble. Nice looking piece. :aok

Actually, you can buy models from Glock that do have the ports in a standard length barrel that still fits inside the slide.   The slide then has to have holes in it to match up with the ports.   The advantage of having an extra long barrel with the ports on the barrel sticking out the end of the slide is that you don't lose any velocity that you would normally get from the 4.5 inch barrel.  These ports bleed off gasses, and thus will reduce velocity if the barrel length remains the same.   By extending the length, you still get your full velocity, and the advantages of the muzzle brake too.

The gun still fits and draws fine in any Glock 17 holster that is open at the muzzle, as many designs are.

This is my second Glock pistol, and both have been super reliable.   Never had any failures of any kind.  My first one was a model 19, but I have big hands, and the model 17 fits me much better.   There are so many pistols out like the Glock now, that I really cannot say that they have any real edge over any of them.   The Springfield XD and the S&W M&P are both excellent pistols too.

Since the Glock has been out a lot longer, though, you can find more accessories for it to trick it out.

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Re: Some Photos of my Namesake
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2008, 01:18:54 AM »
I  wonder if  the ports would make for a more blinding flash for the shooter in a nighttime shooting incident.. like a home defense kind of scenario. I have to admit that I'm torn about lazer sighting.  In this same nighttime home defense scenario if you haven't acquired your target all the lazer will serve to do is tell the bad guy where you are. I understand it would be a nice deterrent if one was painting a red dot on the bad guy's chest.  Like I said.. I'm torn.

As for the gun itself, I think the extended barrel makes it look cobbled together... cheap and unpleasing to the eye.  YMMV

I've not noticed any problem with flash.  The better brands of self-defense ammo use very low flash powder these days.  The ports do help to reduce muzzle flip, and also recoil to a lesser extent.  I can recover from shots and shoot my Glock very fast.

The gun also has a super duty recoil guide and spring system inside it, with a total of 3 springs in the guide assembly to further absorb recoil.    I shoot heavy +P+ law enforcement ammo in the gun, yet it is extremely easy to shoot.

The new barrel shoots better than my factory barrel did.   It is very well finished and polished.

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Re: Some Photos of my Namesake
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2008, 01:22:21 AM »

Lazs does bring up a good point with the ports on top of the barrel.  I never really had a problem with 9mm's kicking so hard that I would need ports.

My goal was to create a gun that could be shot faster than normal, due to quicker recovery between shots.

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Re: Some Photos of my Namesake
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2008, 01:27:19 PM »
My goal was to create a gun that could be shot faster than normal, due to quicker recovery between shots.

You going to start shooting http://www.idpa.com/ or http://www.uspsa.org/?

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Re: Some Photos of my Namesake
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2008, 01:44:17 PM »
The "C" models of Glocks have the built in compensators with slots cut in the top of the slide.  Does reduce muzzle whip a fair bit, but you can't do any shooting from retention or else you'll catch the blast right in the face and bottom of the chin.  Not good.

I see tons of Glocks in the middle east.  Iraqi police are issued with them quite often, without holsters I might add until recently.

I use a G19 at work in Afghanistan, although I work for Sig as well, you take what you're given. 

I used to run a range, www.theshootingedge.com.  We shot more ammo there from winchester than any other public rental range in North America, so take what I'm saying in that context.  We had more Glocks break than any other pistol there.  I'm talking a dozen over the 2 years I was teaching courses there, with pics of every single one to prove it.  Now sure there was only one catastrophic blow up, and most of the failures were the guide rails for the slide that are little metal tabs set into the plastic of the top of the receivers blowing out.  But when in Canada, it's a year long process to get a pistol over the border and back for repair from Glock.

As an aside, not one 226 or 220 from Sig went down with anything other than worn out springs in the high tens of thousands of rounds count.  I can also tell you on good authority that Canada's special forces JTF-2 has never had a 226 fail.  Ask any Police department armourer how many Glocks he's seen KB.

So long as the round counts are kept under 20,000, I've found the Glocks to be reliable enough, and the G19's we are issued have stood up real well to the dust, and they are accurate enough.  Something a Delta guy told me last time over - the G19 barrel is too short for ANY grain of hollow point to work effectively, as the velocity is too low for it to expand properly, or at all, so you're better of just using FMJ/Ball as you won't lose any penetrating power like you would with the non-expanding HP.  He was actually making fun of the US Gov DSG plainclothes guys nearby when one was talking about his ammo loadout.


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Re: Some Photos of my Namesake
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2008, 02:11:08 PM »
Plain old Glock19 here.  Nothing fancy.  Shoots well enough for me and the HP bullets Ive recovered from the dirt berms seem pretty well mushroomed.  Im not a professional killer and I dont plan on shooting 10,000 rounds a year from my Glock, as such I am confident in its ability to do what I need when I need it done without the rails failing or some other such catastophe. 

Im certainly not aware of any undisclosed underground trend for Glocks to fail at an accellerated rate compared to equally used semis of other makes.  Maybe there is research data avaliable.  Might be interesting to see something other than a one off anecdotal heresy with photos to prove it.
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Re: Some Photos of my Namesake
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2008, 08:21:26 PM »
Actually this is well recorded on the net.  I should have added that virtually ALL firearms save a couple brands had major failures on my range due to high use, and only one or two brands DIDN't.  I can post hundreds of pics of not just Glocks, but Beretta's (locking lug breaking off nearly every 5000 rounds) and HK's etc.

Also, FYI, pulling rounds out of dirt is much different than human tissue, but I too have noticed the same thing after shooting into water barrels with my G26 and G19, the rounds did expand to what I thought was a pretty good diameter, but they also traveled much further than they would in a human torso.

Like you said Yeag, it doesn't matter as most guys will never exceed 1000 rounds much less 100,000 unless they shoot us much we do for work/sport.  It's the training and not the tool, although certain tools will work better in certain hands.  For me, nothing fits my hand and points better than a G19/17 or a 1911. 

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Re: Some Photos of my Namesake
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2008, 10:27:20 PM »
Too bad you didn't take your name from large naked breasts.

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Re: Some Photos of my Namesake
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2008, 10:47:37 PM »
Too bad you didn't take your name from large naked breasts.

Why are you trying to bait me with such an insulting remark???

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Re: Some Photos of my Namesake
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2008, 10:58:06 PM »

Actually this is well recorded on the net. 


Internet lore is hardly a trustworthy source of information.

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Re: Some Photos of my Namesake
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2008, 12:30:29 AM »
Why are you trying to bait me with such an insulting remark???

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yeah..... it was a joke. Welcome to the O'Club :rolleyes:

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Re: Some Photos of my Namesake
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2008, 07:38:14 AM »

yeah..... it was a joke. Welcome to the O'Club :rolleyes:

But you are not explaining here why you posted your remark.

What was the point that you were trying to communicate by saying such a thing??
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Re: Some Photos of my Namesake
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2008, 08:15:03 AM »
I know two cops with broken glocks.. I have seen several jam.. all autos jam if you don't hold em just right.   even at the range.   if you really need em.. you might not be holding em right.. all autos jam if you push em into someone first (out of battery).

As for accurate?   The glocks I seen must not be fired by good shots.  I have never seen one that would outshoot my revolvers or 1911 Kimber..  not at 25 or 50 or 100 yards.   the guy did do some impressive stuff at 7 yards tho.

I don't look at shooting as a race.   not for fun and not for anything serious..  It is best to hit what you aim at.

I am unaware of any shooting where 8 guys were all double tapped by a lone high capcity mag pistolero..  I am aware of hig cap guys spraying as many as 36 rounds or.. two mags in the general vicinity of the bad guy with no hits.

I am not aware of anyone using a lazer sight or flashlight on a gun that ended the fight.   At the range or out plinking.. they are both useless.   for the house.. just embarassing.

I find ports on a 9mm to be odd.. it would be like me porting my K22 masterpiece in 22 long rifle.. except.. the K22 would be a nice looking gun ruined where the 9m is just an ugly gun made uglier..  and louder.

The sound of a gunshot is fairly easy to protect your ears from until you add ports.  They will destroy your hearing.

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Re: Some Photos of my Namesake
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2008, 08:46:33 AM »
But you are not explaining here why you posted your remark.

What was the point that you were trying to communicate by saying such a thing??
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Capt Obvious to the rescue: he meant that IF your nickname had been something related to breasts, a post named "some Photos of my Namesake" would have hence contained a pic of female boobs.

No flame war would have ensued and everyone would have been very happy (with the exception of TXMom... and if she had been, there isn't anything wrong with that...)
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