Hurricane IIC Eny 10????

[2fly]

Naa.

    It would still be full of P-51s and corsairs.  If I am not mistaken, (Lusche the statistician would know), the P51 is the most flown plane in the late war arenas.

   And as others said, never underestimate the Hurri IIc.  Always give them respect and if one has altitude on you.... live in fear.  If one is less than 1k from you even at a full deflection angle.....live in fear.  Even as mediochre a gunner as myself frequently score kills with hispanos at D800 on 90 degree deflection "pings".  10 ENY is a good value for them imho.

[FireDrgn]

You are confusing it with the Hurricane I, which has an ENY of 40. Hurricane II never had an Eny >30 as far as I know.

And don't underestimate the IIC. If it had only average armament, I would share your opinion. But the Hispanos change evrything and set it apart from all the other TnB planes in the set.Thanks to them, it's even very capable vs BnZ attacks. You can quite easily dodge an attack, then use it's incredible maneuverabilty to bring the guns to bear the moment your enemy passes you. And not many rounds are needed to  Also the Hurri is sturdier than a Spit and very stable in a dive. Of course, the puny speed is the main reason the Hurri II has no ENY 5
While, in my opinion, one could argue about the ENY 15 rating of a 190D, it's much more a one-trick pony. You need much more discipline to fight in it succesfully. A Hurri can't run away for sure, but a 190 that loses it's E advantage is in some serious trouble too.

Back when FT was going the hurri2c had a 35 eny

[CAP1]

Yeah but it's like one of the slowest fighters in the game - it's completely outclassed, unless you meet someone dumb enough to turn fight with you...  Anyone who meets up with one always has the option to run away, come back, and energy fight.

I'll never understand why it's rated so high (all of a sudden in my mind since I remember it being like 35 last time I noticed), and other Uber planes like the P-51D, FW190-D and Typhoon are not rated 5. 

It's like punishing a "Fighting Plane" while giving breaks to "Pick & Run" planes.

Slamfire

DUDE.....people thing the P40 is outclassed too....if you're one of them, i dare ya to go fight 1DUKE1 in his P40, with you flying whatever you fly best. 95% chance you'll lose.

 i think it's the same for the hurri2.......there are people in it that can downright embarrass some pilots in LW uber-rides......

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[humble]

what are they easy kills in? is this in a co-alt fight, or you BnZ'in them? it seems to me that if one tries gto turn with them, they come out on top...........

with a 2c the question is never "co-alt" but "co-e". Most habitual 2c drivers enter a fight with significant alt (I rarely see a IIc inbound under 15k) and or a numerical advantage. The 2c with alt and E is exceptionally formidable and difficult to avoid let alone actually kill. Once "cornered" the majority of 2c drivers immediately turn to a vertical 2 circle fight relying on the power of the guns vs their skill with the plane.... Given the ballistics involved this isnt a bad move since there is a fine line between setting up a good rope and falling to a 800 yd golden BB.

Normally I run into a hurricane when I get dragged into a fight I can no longer control in an A-20 where the 2c is pretty much unavoidable. Otherwise they're normally pretty easy kills (even in an A-20) from an even start but the ability to hit 800 yd snapshots is always a threat with them. No question that the tiffie and the hurricane are both tremendous opportunists in a furball type enviornment, one from the inside and the other from the outside...both are just right at an ENY of 10 in my mind.

[CAP1]

with a 2c the question is never "co-alt" but "co-e". Most habitual 2c drivers enter a fight with significant alt (I rarely see a IIc inbound under 15k) and or a numerical advantage. The 2c with alt and E is exceptionally formidable and difficult to avoid let alone actually kill. Once "cornered" the majority of 2c drivers immediately turn to a vertical 2 circle fight relying on the power of the guns vs their skill with the plane.... Given the ballistics involved this isnt a bad move since there is a fine line between setting up a good rope and falling to a 800 yd golden BB.

Normally I run into a hurricane when I get dragged into a fight I can no longer control in an A-20 where the 2c is pretty much unavoidable. Otherwise they're normally pretty easy kills (even in an A-20) from an even start but the ability to hit 800 yd snapshots is always a threat with them. No question that the tiffie and the hurricane are both tremendous opportunists in a furball type enviornment, one from the inside and the other from the outside...both are just right at an ENY of 10 in my mind.

well, the only time i relly go that hi in my hurri is if the enemy's up there......i generally fly right to the fights, and hope for  nice furball, or a nice 1-1..........i've never really thought about bnz in the hurri as i have trouble with her at speed...besides..to me the roller coaster ride of a furball or a great 1-1 is where it's at........and i do unfortunatly rely on the cannons till i get better....i like the zekes too, although their cannon's aren't as potent.......

[Sommers]

Another reason Hurri isn't rated higher: just 364 rounds in those hispanos.  Its hard to rack up kills unless you use 2 at a time (but thats no fun .  Trying to get back to base with a couple of spits and ponies when you have no ammo is not easy.

[CAP1]

Another reason Hurri isn't rated higher: just 364 rounds in those hispanos.  Its hard to rack up kills unless you use 2 at a time (but thats no fun .  Trying to get back to base with a couple of spits and ponies when you have no ammo is not easy.

those hispanos don't need too many rounds to connect to kill though....i've removed the empenage of 109's with only 3 or 4 visible hit sprites....usually with 1 or 2 second bursts......
landing the kills is another thing alltogether

[E25280]

with a 2c the question is never "co-alt" but "co-e". Most habitual 2c drivers enter a fight with significant alt (I rarely see a IIc inbound under 15k) and or a numerical advantage. The 2c with alt and E is exceptionally formidable and difficult to avoid let alone actually kill. Once "cornered" the majority of 2c drivers immediately turn to a vertical 2 circle fight relying on the power of the guns vs their skill with the plane.... Given the ballistics involved this isnt a bad move since there is a fine line between setting up a good rope and falling to a 800 yd golden BB.

Normally I run into a hurricane when I get dragged into a fight I can no longer control in an A-20 where the 2c is pretty much unavoidable. Otherwise they're normally pretty easy kills (even in an A-20) from an even start but the ability to hit 800 yd snapshots is always a threat with them. No question that the tiffie and the hurricane are both tremendous opportunists in a furball type enviornment, one from the inside and the other from the outside...both are just right at an ENY of 10 in my mind.

That's funny -- the only time I see IIc's are right off the runway in a base-defense role.  About the only time I use them, too.

[SD67]

Hurri IIc's pwn my La