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Offline Ripsnort

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Re: Democrats have a thing or two to learn
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2008, 09:50:00 PM »
I think that was Nixon that gave up in Viet Nam, but in fairness to Tricky Dick he inherited a real mess. But anyway, I'm agreeing with you- if we're going to go to war we need to fight to win the damn thing ASAP. The only two examples I've seen where one party has an exclusive on how to wage war are Iraq (managed by the Republicans) and WW2 (managed by the Democrats).

The Democrats didn't quit- and sooner or later the Republicans will.
You're older than I am dude. Were you hitting the Thai stix too much back then? Nixon campaigned in '67-'68 to pull OUT of 'Nam. Unfortunately it took him longer to do so than originally planned.

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Re: Democrats have a thing or two to learn
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2008, 09:53:47 PM »
Nixon campaigned in '67-'68 to pull OUT of 'Nam.

But yet invaded Cambodia.
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Re: Democrats have a thing or two to learn
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2008, 09:57:13 PM »
But yet invaded Cambodia.
DUH. They were using Cambodia as safe harbor to kill our boys. Ignoring such things would have cost us WW2. There IS no antiseptic war
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Re: Democrats have a thing or two to learn
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2008, 10:01:52 PM »
But we invaded Cambodia, and it still cost us South Vietnam. Its like invading Iran or Syria to save Iraq.

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Re: Democrats have a thing or two to learn
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2008, 10:05:36 PM »
But we invaded Cambodia, and it still cost us South Vietnam.


One has naught to do with the other--if NVA are using Cambodia as safe harbor, you BOMB Cambodia---If most of North Vietnam hadn't spent most of the 60's blissfully unaware that a war was on to the south, South Vietnam would have lived---If you're gonna have a war , HAVE a frikkin war :aok
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Re: Democrats have a thing or two to learn
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2008, 10:21:34 PM »
The Nixon Admin decided to invade Cambodia rather than to attack North Vietnam.

Cambodia was attacked in 1970...The Linebacker Raids started in 1972.

Sorry to Hijack.

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Re: Democrats have a thing or two to learn
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2008, 10:58:42 PM »
You're older than I am dude. Were you hitting the Thai stix too much back then? Nixon campaigned in '67-'68 to pull OUT of 'Nam. Unfortunately it took him longer to do so than originally planned.

Yup- Nixon and Humphrey both made campaign promises in 1968 to end the war in Viet Nam...if there was ever a Tweedle Dee-Tweedle Dum choice for Prez, 1968 was it.

And then Nixon was reelected with the same campaign promise, only amended to read "peace with honor" and that was enough to defeat McCarthy, who was percieved as "too extreme" (sounds like Obama) by the voting public...There were even rumors he experimented with LSD.

So Nixon has the dubious distinction for being the only President elected twice because he made the same campaign promise in both campaigns, 68 and 72- to end a war that ultimately lasted longer than any war we'd ever been in.

That's the past, Rip- the present is we're five years into Iraq, and the future is maybe five years from now it'll be your kids putting their life on the line over there.

Will you be OK with that five years from now?