Author Topic: San Jose democrat proposes a bill to raise beer tax in Kalifornia by 1500%  (Read 883 times)

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Yay socialism!

We'll tax our way into prosperity!
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just like we've accepted that concept with tobacco," Beall said.

The problem is "We" haven't accepted it Mr. Beall.  These are the guys that want to take over the health care system.  They will then have the full and total legal authority to tell everyone what to drink, eat, and control any activity that might damage your health to protect the greater good of the system the public demanded.

Keep it up people :)  Some of you are going willingly into the abyss, knowing full well that it won't affect you.  Oddly enough, where is the tax on those sophisticated sissy drinks?
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Beall said the tax would generate $2 billion a year to fund health care services, crime prevention and programs to prevent underage drinking and addiction.

I'll bet the fillings in my teeth that the new tax will make ZERO impact on health care services, crime prevention etc. Those claims are just sop to make the public more acquiescent and accept the new tax.

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If your worked in the liquor industry you'd know just how pathetic people are when they're addicted to alcohol.

They've already started on smoking... the next biggest societal cost is the consumption of alcohol. Every Western society will one day end up making it hard for people to drink. It costs the community so much in health care and crime that it makes sense for them to come down on it.

It's going to happen everywhere, don't be surprised when it does.

I'm surprised they're not doing it gradually like they're doing in Australia. Slowly but surely beer prices are going up every quarter.

Soon enough people will simply not be able to afford to drink they way they used to.
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The only thing that socialist-minded liberals get from raising taxes is alleviating their sense of guilt.

I think it relates back to the very liberal concept of limited good. The gist of it is that if somebody has more than the average, then he's only acquired it through trickery or theivery. It's the mind set of career consumers, critics, editorialists or anybody else who spends more time talking and contemplating than doing and achieving. Producers know that the amount of wealth that can be generated is only limited by imagination and determination.

Ahhh guilt, the greatest taxable commodity of all.

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The New American way....if the goverment don't think its good for you ......Raise those taxes so high the people
can't aford it....like cigs.....and woolaaa....goverment has achieved its objective!!   :furious
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Raise those taxes so that at some point, the only drunk rich people will be our leaders, but hey, they work hard so they have earned that right.
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If your worked in the liquor industry you'd know just how pathetic people are when they're addicted to alcohol.

They've already started on smoking... the next biggest societal cost is the consumption of alcohol. Every Western society will one day end up making it hard for people to drink. It costs the community so much in health care and crime that it makes sense for them to come down on it.

It's going to happen everywhere, don't be surprised when it does.

I'm surprised they're not doing it gradually like they're doing in Australia. Slowly but surely beer prices are going up every quarter.

Soon enough people will simply not be able to afford to drink they way they used to.


So... You're basically proposing to criminalize Alcohol, at least the behavior of it.  People who are addicted to it are GOING to get it somehow.  What you're suggesting is that they need to start stealing in order to fund their habit. 

And when that's not enough, they'll make it themselves.  They'll do this to maximize Alcohol content through all available means and throw safety to the wind. 


Congratulations.  Your socialistic methods have created real criminals, victimless criminals and accomplished little more than that, other than making it more expensive for everyone else.
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Since caffeine is bad for you I guess they'll want to raise the taxes on a soda 1500% too.  Might as well add salty and fatty foods in as well.  And when it's proven and accepted that cell phones cause cancer, their use should be taxed more. 
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So... You're basically proposing to criminalize Alcohol, at least the behavior of it.  People who are addicted to it are GOING to get it somehow.  What you're suggesting is that they need to start stealing in order to fund their habit. 

And when that's not enough, they'll make it themselves.  They'll do this to maximize Alcohol content through all available means and throw safety to the wind. 


Congratulations.  Your socialistic methods have created real criminals, victimless criminals and accomplished little more than that, other than making it more expensive for everyone else.

This was Prohibition, in the 1920's-30's. It didn't work; it was repealed.

This, however, is a tax, not an outright outlawing. It actually might fly, if it get's the right amount/type of support. Think MADD( Mothers' Against Drunk Drivers) and other anti-alchohol groups.

Now, as most of you know, this is a minority of people. But, they might have alotta money to throw into any campaign to pass this tax. They will most likely emphasize the money going to things' like welfare, or Medical. This will appeal to a certain amount of the poorer welfare-type's. (Keep in mind, though, quite a few welfare dollars go into buying alky though!!)

I really think that there are too many people in this state that drink, that this would ever get past on a popular vote. However, many thought the same with Tobacco, and look how that turned out!

Gonna wait to see if it even makes' the ballot.

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Pffft, limousine liberal, he prolly drinks white wine
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I wonder how many people would start home brewing if that passes. What's he going to do, raise the taxes on hoppes, barley, yeast, and water?? I have a couple of friends that home brew and they make some AWSOME beer. My friend Josh has one hell of a set up out in his garage. He uses soda kegs for his beer and has one of those chest fridges he stores his beer in. He had 6 taps built into the side of the thing and always has at least 4 full kegs on tap at any given time. I love going over to his house.
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The New American way....if the goverment don't think its good for you ......Raise those taxes so high the people
can't aford it....like cigs.....

...........and fuel , groceries,transportation, materials and...........well hell......just about everything.
We are ,not so slowly, as of late, being put own our knees as citizens to the point of breaking. Best way I know for a overpowering, totalitarian entity to establish  control over it`s population to the point of complete control.
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If your worked in the liquor industry you'd know just how pathetic people are when they're addicted to alcohol.

They've already started on smoking... the next biggest societal cost is the consumption of alcohol. Every Western society will one day end up making it hard for people to drink. It costs the community so much in health care and crime that it makes sense for them to come down on it.

It's going to happen everywhere, don't be surprised when it does.

I'm surprised they're not doing it gradually like they're doing in Australia. Slowly but surely beer prices are going up every quarter.

Soon enough people will simply not be able to afford to drink they way they used to.


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