Fun Fights Extinct?

[Latrobe]

I know that there has always been BnZers, HO'er, Gangers, etc, but there was a time when I could log on and almost be certain of atleast 1-2 good fun fights. Recently, of course it has been happening even earlier than now, I have noticed that every fight has one side all at 10K+ and the other side below 5K being BnZ'd the entire time. Where has all the good fights gone? You can find a good fight sometimes (maybe once every month?!), but now it's just 109s, 190, La's, Spits, P51's, and the occassional TYPH/TEMP just BnZing then Running or 6 guys diving on 1 guy. It's gotten to the point where I reversed a Spitfire and watched him dive and run to the nearest ack, which was OUR ack! Heck, I've seen a Zeke BnZing from 25K a few days ago! Even the DA has a few "gang up on one guy" moments.

I did not intend for this to be a "whine", I just want to know if there is anyone left who will actually fight 1-on-1??

[Guppy35]

There are still fun fights.  And there are a lot of us still looking to make em happen

[1Boner]

Personally, I am sick of having to climb to 10k + just to be on an even playing field with most of the guys in here.

And most of the time its alot higher than that.

Don't really care about the historical accuracy of it.

It seems no matter how high you climb, they are always higher. And if they are not, they will run away until they are. Fun Fun Fun!

And yet all you hear from guys on these BBs is that they can never find a "good Fight"

Its kinda a catch 22. If you don,t get high,you die. So consequently everyone keeps flying higher and higher(regardess of their motives)

And guess what?

They are usually flying so high they don't see the opportunity for a good fight fly right underneath them at 5-6k.



Just Sayin,

Boner

[Anaxogoras]

 

I never turn down a good 1vs1, but if you're at 5k ft looking for an air-to-air fight, you are way too low.

Here's my whine: what ever happened to patience and preparation being essential for the successful fighter pilot?

[DoNKeY]

I don't think so, but I think they're harder to find now.  You just have to know where to look.

donkey

[mensa180]

I never turn down a good 1vs1, but if you're at 5k ft looking for an air-to-air fight, you are way too low.

Here's my whine: what ever happened to patience and preparation being essential for the successful fighter pilot?

5k is not to low in this game.

I have my days where I want to live out the historical aspect of things and use their tactics, and try to make it back home alive.  I often do this through scenarios or a snapshot. 

But for the most part, I want have fun in just finding a low fight, around or below 5k, and mixing it up without caring if I die or not.  It goes from me wanting to RTB somewhat successfully, to wanting to get as many as possible before they get me.

[Spikes]

I find a few good fights, but end up getting owned...

[mtnman]

...without caring if I die or not. 

See, (IMO) it's not possible to have a decent fight with someone who doesn't care whether they win or lose.  Can you imagine playing ANY game with someone who just doesn't care?  How boring and pointless...

MtnMan

[Bosco123]

10 mins ago, to be exact, I was fling in a spixteen trying to defend a base under attack. Every single one of the fighters that came in were at least 15K. as the fight went on and everyone stated TnB we all started gangbangin' every single one of those high fighters. There were absoultly no checks, and they were all on one fighter, even though there pleanty to go around. I get in a 1v1 with a 109F and it turns out to be a good fight, then 10 of my people came in and killed him even after I told them that I had him. Then one picker comes in and picks me, again no checks. I went to another feild after that.
    I move to this other feild and the same dam thing is happening: pickers, gangers and no checks. That was when I just logged.
     I now go into the DA more than often for 1v1 because I can never get one of those in the MA anymore. I am beggining to no longer like the MA just for that reason Pickers, gangers and no checks.
    Don't get me wrong I love to pick, but not every plane that I up, sometimes I love to get into a nice furball. (that I never see anymore)
    

[Guppy35]

See, (IMO) it's not possible to have a decent fight with someone who doesn't care whether they win or lose.  Can you imagine playing ANY game with someone who just doesn't care?  How boring and pointless...

MtnMan

You miss the point.  No one is really dying.  He's saying he'd rather get in and mix it up than not fight even if the odds are stacked against him.

I totally understand that and you'll generally find me 5K or lower looking for the fight.  Chances are the other guy will be above me, but thats part of the challenge.  What you care about is the fight itself.

[Husky01]

I can usually always find a good fight in the DA, not so much in the MA now a days though.

[redman555]

i nvr get any good 1v1 dogfights anymore... cause 99.9% of the time i get cherry picked while fightin the person, they call for help, or they run away,get alt, dives,attacks, and repeats..


-BigBOBCH

[Xasthur]

I had an awesome fight with a Yak lastnight. I saw a huge Bish dar bar coming in over a Bish field we were taking... So I assumed it would be a fighter sweep. The dar bar also took ages to get cross the sector line, so I assumed that the sweep would be high. I was right and a pack of 10+ fighters came in at 20k. Luckily I had guessed this and climbed up to just below co-alt in a 152. I kept my distance for a bit, avoided a few HOs and kept climbing.

This fight went up to 28k! It was 4 v 1 on me, so it was a sprial climbing, slashing sort of fight. By the time I got up that high the P51s couldn't keep up and I thought the Yak would have serious problems above 20K... let a lone 30k... It kept with me and the fight (which was now 1 v 1)  went right down to the wire coming down to 20k and going back up to 25k.

I couldn't believe the Yak could keep up like that.. I was WEPing the whole time but it still stayed closely with me.

In the end we'd been fighting for what felt like at least 15 minutes and he still hadn't run out of fuel... I was running low in a 152!

He made a break for the deck (he had be nearly dry on fuel, surely) and dove at 500+ Mph on a Rook pack of low fighters. He got careless and I got him.. I can't remember who it was.. It was some name I've never seen before... but it was an awesome fight.

Not once during the fight did he dive away when he blew his angle, he kept climbing and fighting to take the advantage back. It was awesome.

<S> whoever that high Bish yak was.

[humble]

I could care less how high you are or what your flying, being at 20k will do you no good if I'm at 5k. I also could care less if you have the "better" plane. You cant kill me unless you get in guns range...and if you can shoot me I can usually figure out some way to shoot back. I dont even care if your the 1st guy in or the 2nd...

What I do care is that you want to fight and that your intentions are to "kill me". E fight, angles fight, even "B&Z" I dont care....try all 3 of em. However more and more what we have is a gaggle of folks who dont ever really engage...they pick, loiter and flock like pidgeons or form part of a giant impersonal nameless "mizzun" hoard or ever decreasing skill, civility and common courtesy. Sadly the relative level of "smack" is clearly becomeing the inverse of relative level of skill. I miss the shanes and Nath's of the world, love em or hate me but they fought what they found and didnt leave till they won or they died. The sad reality is that a name change is propably in order. I'd prefer "aces low"...but "putz's high" might be more realistic...

[DoNKeY]

What I do care is that you want to fight...

Probably one of the best quotes that anyone could find to - 

QFT!

donkey