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Offline Latrobe

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Re: the me262 is fragile
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2008, 12:26:36 PM »
The way I like to use the 262, and it seems to work alot, is take off in a prop plane and check out the fight. If the enemy is all low then I'll take a 262 in low and fast. If they are high then I'll take it in high. I try to avoid diving with the 262 if I'm already at 400 mph because of the risk of snapping the wings off. I did land 2 262's with no wingtips before, but it's a real pain in the arse!

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Re: the me262 is fragile
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2008, 01:53:47 PM »
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Re: the me262 is fragile
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2008, 01:54:10 PM »
Landing with one engine is pretty easy, ...

  Ever looked up how they landed the passenger liner in Souxe City, IA with all the controls gone?

Landed???!!???

I recall that DC10 cartwheeling across the airport in FLAMES with half the PAX dying! The miracle was that ANYBODY survived! It was a  great example of pilotage to get that aircraft into a position to "land"!

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Re: the me262 is fragile
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2008, 02:28:05 PM »
i guess thats better then me killing it in my pony or my Dora :D
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Re: the me262 is fragile
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2008, 02:58:19 PM »
well,

using it in thr right way

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Re: the me262 is fragile
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2008, 03:11:19 PM »
saturday i was flying a 262 at 12000 ft. i located a set of b24's at 5000 ft. i cut throttle rolled over and dove on the b24's. before i got within 2k my wing tips snapped off and i was not flying at too high rate of speed. i managed to kill one b24. i struggled to keep it flying. i had to use the rudder to turn right and left and my elerons to maintain level flight. the auto pilot helped alot. then some dweeb try to ho me in a 190 and i blew him apart. to end the story i managed to make it back to base.
i did not attempt to land. the 262 was in too bad a shape and i was about to lose a engine. i bailed.  2 kills to 1 loss of a 262. too big of a price to pay for only 2 kills. 124 perks lost. :(

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Re: the me262 is fragile
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2008, 03:13:33 PM »
I tried fling a p38 the other day.....dove dove shake dove shake some more ..can't pull out! scream!!!!!!!!!1 THUMP!!!
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Re: the me262 is fragile
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2008, 04:19:06 PM »
ive done something i dont think anyone in the game has done :D
i popped the wings on a 190A8...haha :furious :furious :furious
but i was blitzed real bad
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Re: the me262 is fragile
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2008, 04:40:07 PM »
One trick you might try is alternating application of full right then full left rudder as you dive.  Kinda like an air brake.  I fly 109's a lot.  They suffer serious compression above 425 IAS.  I use the rudder trick a lot to avoid augering.

It's more effective to apply full rudder to one side with opposite aileron.  That forces the side of the fuselage into the airstream which is what actually acts as a brake.  Alternating rudder will leave you in a normal (non-slip) aspect every time you cross center with the rudder causing momentary acceleration.  In fact, the only time you will have full slip-braking is at the far end of the rudder.
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Re: the me262 is fragile
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2008, 04:43:28 PM »
ive done something i dont think anyone in the game has done :D
i popped the wings on a 190A8...haha :furious :furious :furious
but i was blitzed real bad

dude.. last night I was climbing up next to a set of B24's in a A8. I went afk for a min to grab a drink, and I came back to find out I was co alt and 600ft to the side of them. I tried to roll out but was too late and I got blasted to hell.

It killed my engine and knocked off both wing tips. I glided that plane all the way back to the base from 15k, only to clip the hill just before the runway. The plane was getting to slow and started dropping too fast. As much as I've flown A8's it's the first time I ever knocked both wing tips off..

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Re: the me262 is fragile
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2008, 04:52:30 PM »
lol, wow, go to the training arena, by the time u went down 7,000ft u prolly b going over 800 mph, and then u try and pull up bam wings gone


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Re: the me262 is fragile
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2008, 06:21:06 PM »
Crying about 124 perks lost? Fly a 109E or P38G for a week....

A week, maybe a day or two. They are great perk builders.


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Re: the me262 is fragile
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2008, 08:04:32 PM »
landing was impossible due to the fact that the 262 had no flaps and no turn capability other than use of rudder and ailerons for lift. even with the wings intact i cant land with one engine. tried it and rolled into the ground. if the 163 had range i would rather use it.
Just to clarify here...if you're missing your wingtips you're missing your ailerons which are attached to the wing tips.  You're limited to rudder and elevators.  Landing can be done with no wingtips and only one engine but you have to set up for a long straight in, avoid turns into the dead engine and stay about 150mph until you can cut the remaining engine and glide it in. 

As far as fragility is concerned, it's not.  Take the plane out in off-line and dive it.  You'll see it'll accelerate faster than any other plane in the AH inventory except perhaps the 163 and all airplanes have a red-line airspeed.  It'll go much faster than any other airplane without shedding parts so in many ways it's much stronger.  However, available G is directly related to speed and at the speeds the 262 can achieve even a small pitch input can cause the g-meter to spike well above 6g's...that's what's taking the wingtips off.  It's not that the airplane is fragile, it's that it can get pretty damn fast compared to what you're used to.
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Re: the me262 is fragile
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2008, 09:28:48 PM »
Landing with one engine is pretty easy, you just have to use some rudder or trim your rudder to compesate for the loss of thrust from one engine.  Landind with wing tips gone can be tricky but the flaps are still there and you can actually stear the plane by adjusting the thrust from each engine seperately.  Ever looked up how they landed the passenger liner in Souxe City, IA with all the controls gone?

The other option for landing with one engine is simply to shut the other one down on approach and just glide her in
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Re: the me262 is fragile
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2008, 12:38:10 AM »
The other option for landing with one engine is simply to shut the other one down on approach and just glide her in

I find that the best way to land even with both engines operational. You just can't slow down even with them idling.