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Offline captkaos

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Smoke Screens For Ships
« on: April 14, 2008, 12:01:02 PM »
I really wish that we had the option for the ships guns to fire smoke to obscure the view of the enemy.  It was common practice during the war in the Pacific during WWII, so it is not some off the wall request.  It might help against bomber attacks as well as those rare ship to ship fights.

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Re: Smoke Screens For Ships
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2008, 09:43:57 PM »
i give this thread a 60% chance of getting someone who agrees with it, that would be very interesting concept tho, but if that happened that the Ack-Ack would have to be decreased when it happened

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Re: Smoke Screens For Ships
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2008, 09:51:19 PM »
major FR killer.

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Re: Smoke Screens For Ships
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2008, 10:27:19 PM »
good idea but
i couldn't get within a sector of a ship without crashing my computer lol

i already try to avoid cv fights if i can cause i start freeezing..

would be a cool addition though
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Re: Smoke Screens For Ships
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2008, 12:18:40 AM »
Yea alot of smoke causes discos.... Be ready for it.  :salute
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Re: Smoke Screens For Ships
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2008, 02:30:08 AM »
I like it!
IMO it wouldn't cause more FR issues than GV's popping smoke. No need for ack to be decreased though it's enough that the 5" guns will be near impossible to use as AA while the smokes' out.
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Re: Smoke Screens For Ships
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2008, 02:52:57 AM »
If im not mistaken the DDs did not fire smoke, they introduced oil into the stacks to create the thick smoke from them.  So the only ships that would be obscured would be the CV and the CA.  You could still see the DDs and sort of extrapalate the location of teh CA and CV.

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Re: Smoke Screens For Ships
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2008, 08:02:31 AM »
snippage ..............
USS Johnston (DD-557) was a World War II-era Fletcher-class destroyer in the service of the United States Navy.
Johnston was laid down 6 May 1942 by the Seattle Tacoma Shipbuilding Co., Seattle, Washington; launched 25 March 1943;  and commissioned 27 October 1943, Lieutenant Commander Ernest E. Evans in command......

One of the pilots flying patrol after dawn alert of 25 October 1944 reported the approach of Japanese Center Force. Steaming straight for "Taffy 3" were 4 battleships, 7 cruisers, and at least 12 destroyers. This force unfortunately included the Japanese battleship Yamato. Johnston's gunnery officer later reported, "We felt like little David without a slingshot." In less than a minute Johnston was zigzagging between the six little escort carriers and the Japanese fleet and putting out a smoke screen over a 2,500-yard front to conceal the carriers from the enemy gunners: "Even as we began laying smoke, the Japanese started lobbing shells at us and the Johnston had to zigzag between the splashes.... We were the first destroyer to make smoke, the first to start firing, the first to launch a torpedo attack...........

The first USS Pillsbury (DD-227) was a Clemson-class destroyer in the United States Navy during World War II. She was named for John E. Pillsbury. Pillsbury was laid down by William Cramp and Sons on 23 October 1919; launched 3 August 1920;  and commissioned 15 December 1920, Lieutenant H. W. Barnes in command.

On 18 February the Japanese began moving ashore on Bali and the American-British-Dutch-Australian Command (ABDA) surface forces including Pillsbury set out to disrupt further landings from a Japanese convoy reported in the area.

While steaming through Badoeng Strait on the night of 19–20 February during the Battle of Badoeng Strait, Pillsbury fired three torpedoes at a Japanese ship without result. A searchlight was trained on Pillsbury, and several shots were fired at her. She turned to starboard and make smoke to escape the light. The relatively small Allied forces at this time were forced to lightning strikes and rapid evasive retirement in the face of superior Japanese forces in the dim hope of disrupting the enemy advance.

..................end snippage

Sure looks to me like Destroyers made smoke also, seeing as how the Johnston in question was a fletcher class Destroyer.
And the Pillsbury was launched in 1920.



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Re: Smoke Screens For Ships
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2008, 08:36:27 AM »
I recommended this awhile back for ships. If they at least let the PT boats make smoke it would help. :aok

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Re: Smoke Screens For Ships
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2008, 01:39:25 PM »
In truth it wouldn't have any effect on me at all. I can't see smoke in the first place. I can't see clouds either.

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Re: Smoke Screens For Ships
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2008, 05:26:28 PM »
lol now that they know it, they fix it just for you  :aok
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Re: Smoke Screens For Ships
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2008, 06:07:00 PM »
FR over load like weather
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Re: Smoke Screens For Ships
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2008, 09:35:59 PM »
hmm, Didnt they have a different sight for shooting Smoke?

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Re: Smoke Screens For Ships
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2008, 10:09:32 AM »
FR over load like weather

First off, Weather didn't give off a frame rate overload...




Anyway, if you want to read a cool book, read "The Last Stand of the Tin Can Soldiers."  It describes the account above.  The Johnston and her crew had some MAJOR balls.  They pretty much held off most of the Japanese fleet as a small Destroyer Escort.

Think of it like a PT boat taking on all of the Rook's Carriers, Destroyers and Cruisers all at once.  And almost winning.
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Re: Smoke Screens For Ships
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2008, 11:18:11 AM »
I would like to see it, and maybe HTC can test it to see what the effects would be. For right now, you can't say it will "kill you frame rate".