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Offline Larry

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Re: Need some light shed on this P39.
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2008, 12:27:34 PM »
Downloading them now. 2.2mb Ill get it some time next week. :P


I dont know about the star on the wings. Iv been looking around the net for that plane but havent got any wing shots. I dont know anything about non luftwaffe paint schemes so Ill do what ever you guys think would be right.



Got the 4x. Its good enough for me to paint it by hand. Its just going to come out kind of blurry. Thanks. :aok
« Last Edit: April 22, 2008, 12:50:04 PM by Larry »
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Re: Need some light shed on this P39.
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2008, 12:52:33 PM »
Ya, I edited my post re the upper wings, cuz I don't know either <shrug>.

...sent a pilot badge pic to you as well, it shows what they were trying to paint on the doors, which were Soviet Air Force Pilots Wings. At least it gives you the actual info as to what the structure was.
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Re: Need some light shed on this P39.
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2008, 01:03:07 PM »
i don't wanna hijack a thread BUT,  truekill you make awesome skins, a huge <<S>> goes out to ya, from JETSOM.



alright hijack over carry on.

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Re: Need some light shed on this P39.
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2008, 02:09:58 PM »
i don't wanna hijack a thread BUT,  truekill you make awesome skins, a huge <<S>> goes out to ya, from JETSOM.

alright hijack over carry on.

Slips a twenty under the table, "same time next week".  :D




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Re: Need some light shed on this P39.
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2008, 05:47:11 PM »
Damn, you do nice work.
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Re: Need some light shed on this P39.
« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2008, 05:49:57 PM »
That look awesome. TK, I should set you up with some more Soviet skins! They are just as good as your Luftwaffe ones!
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Re: Need some light shed on this P39.
« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2008, 06:02:55 PM »
Excellent skin Truekill, nicely aged and weathered.  :aok

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Re: Need some light shed on this P39.
« Reply #37 on: April 22, 2008, 07:28:50 PM »
I missed adding this picture before at the bottom right it says shell ejection but I cant read it all  

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Re: Need some light shed on this P39.
« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2008, 02:03:01 AM »
That look awesome. TK, I should set you up with some more Soviet skins! They are just as good as your Luftwaffe ones!

Yea since Iv done the template Im thinking of doing a few more P39Qs. Iv been looking at "Brooklyn Bum 2nd" if no one have done it by the time Im done with this one.


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Re: Need some light shed on this P39.
« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2008, 07:30:57 AM »
Well it's almost done. Still need some "dirt and mud" on the under side and a few more things to finnish her off. If you see anything wrong please let me know.


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Re: Need some light shed on this P39.
« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2008, 07:44:55 AM »
Looks great only issue I can see if your going off my stencil pics it appears you have some of them flipped around on the wrong side of the plane.
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Re: Need some light shed on this P39.
« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2008, 12:28:26 PM »
That blue nose just makes it look good.

Once again, some of your best work TK.
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Re: Need some light shed on this P39.
« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2008, 02:11:50 PM »
Just a critique, the a/c has the "US applied" Red Stars, so, ergo, it would not have the outlines of the USAAF markings on it, because they would not have been there to begin with.

Ex. the P-63s in the photo in this thread, awaiting shipment to Russia. They have the Red Stars applied in the USA.

The evidence that "white 84" is a bird with the Red Star applied in the USA, is that there is no overspray of green on the fuselage where the red star is, so, it came with the a/c, unlike "white 23" (the default skin), which was obviously an example of one shipped with USAAF markings on it, that the Russians removed, as you can see the green paint they applied on the fuselage in that example to overpaint where they applied the red star after delivery.

On late war P-39s, you could have examples of both, but if the markings were applied at the factory, which many were, then no overspray, or US outlines. It depends on what exact P-39 you are looking at, and its a case by case study.

"P-39 Aces" page 81: "As wartime production increased and batches of a/c were earmarked for Russia while still on the production lines, a number of markings developments occured. Some a/c were finished at the Bell factory with Soviet insignia already applied, thus presenting the traditional Russian star painted directly on Olive Drab, with no blue circle, or Russian Green-overpainted background".

Filitovs P-39 "Yellow 93" was also an example of that type. 

...Looks excellent overall.

PS I don't have a profile for "Brookyln Bum" or I would send it along.

 
« Last Edit: April 23, 2008, 03:31:48 PM by Squire »
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Re: Need some light shed on this P39.
« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2008, 04:30:14 PM »
Ill fix the text and the overspray. Im kinda glad its a russian plane because that overspray just doesnt look good on the top wing.



Squire post or send me any P39 you would like to see made. I found alot of color photos of brooklyn bum 2nd that I can make for me on the side.
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Re: Need some light shed on this P39.
« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2008, 04:47:49 PM »
Cool, thx, I will give it a few days to look over what I have, and maybe submitt one that fills out the skin gaps.
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