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Offline waystin2

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Stuka Vs C205
« on: April 15, 2008, 12:20:46 PM »
I was attacking a vbase with some squaddies last night in Stukas.  Well we get over the Vbase, drop ord and begin exfiltrating out to friendly skies.  I check my six and see a C205 closing from 5.5k out.  I figure I can't outrun him, so I turn the nose toward him, and figure I will get in whatever licks I can before paying the piper.  First high speed pass he damages me, but jinking saved me from a full blown HO.  I reverse into him and actually get some snapshots into him with the teeny tiny guns on my Stuka.  He decides he is gonna turn with me trying to get a tail shot so I figure what the heck, let's do this!  I gain on him in the turnfest, and ping him a few more times.  This is where the story gets odd, he runs to the Vbases ack/Wirbels with a Stuka chasing him!  A STUKA!  Anyway, everytime I tried to head back to my airfield, he would come flying out of the ack, throttle to the floor, trying to nail me.  This dance happened three times in a row, exactly the same each time, before he got me.  Would love to see some other oddball/overmatched dogfighting stories here...
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Re: Stuka Vs C205
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2008, 12:30:53 PM »
anytime I am in anything and go up against anyone in a A-20 Im like....WTF  :eek:
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Re: Stuka Vs C205
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2008, 12:34:11 PM »
Well somebody once tried to HO me in a LA7... I was in a B25H to bad so sad. I think he took the 75 right through the spinner.

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Re: Stuka Vs C205
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2008, 12:36:19 PM »
The A-20 is a surprisingly good fighter.

I've gotten kills on a C-hog, 4-hog, 262 (mutual death unfortunately), Spit 16, and a sampler platter of ENY 5 planes this tour.  Still have a 2 to 1 K/D too, even after last night's thrashing.

With respect to the Stuka, I fought Trotter, a squaddie, in the AvA one night with him in a Stuka and me in an early hurri or spit.  That plane can be quite lethal if flown really well and if you can maintain a 1v1.  I'm not surprised you gave that 205 a spanking.
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Re: Stuka Vs C205
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2008, 12:37:29 PM »
The A-20 is a surprisingly good fighter.

I've gotten kills on a C-hog, 4-hog, 262 (mutual death unfortunately), Spit 16, and a sampler platter of ENY 5 planes this tour.  Still have a 2 to 1 K/D too, even after last night's thrashing.

With respect to the Stuka, I fought Trotter, a squaddie, in the AvA one night with him in a Stuka and me in an early hurri or spit.  That plane can be quite lethal if flown really well and if you can maintain a 1v1.  I'm not surprised you gave that 205 a spanking.  You Pigs on the Wing guys seem like pretty good sticks.
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Re: Stuka Vs C205
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2008, 01:16:21 PM »
I was in a Stuka one night hunting GV's near an enemy VB.  I didn't get my ord off before a P-38 engaged me.  I let the 1000K center bomb go and started turn-fighting the guy.  As I did I switched ord and let the 250K's go.  I turned with this guy for several minutes, then a 110 joined him.  Now I'm dancing in my Stuka with a P-38 and a 110, both of which I managed to ping.  This went on for several more minutes.

Finally, two friendly's showed up and cleared these two.  I sort of wish they hadn't.  It was a fun fight and I'm pretty sure I would have gotten at least one, if not both of these guys.  Neither one of them ever got even a ping on me and when I finally flew away, I found I still had one 250K egg strapped to one wing.

That was one of those sweaty palm, heart racing fights you only rarely find.
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Re: Stuka Vs C205
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2008, 01:36:03 PM »
We do some interesting things in the 80th & S.A.P.P. from time to time.

I went up in a stuka, flew 2 sectors dropped a bomb then got in a dogfight with a mossie that had alt. I killed the mossie just as a spit 5 got there.... killed him then dove on a hog and killed him. The whole time I just knew I was going to die but never stopped turning. Made it back with 3 scalps.

On another adventure we flew in goons across the bay to an enemy base and dropped vehicle supplies on the enemy town even though our GVs had no spawn there. I got 2 kills that time from folks racing to kill the goon before a friendly gets him. I died anyway that time.

Recently S.A.P.P. pulled in some outsiders for an undercover mission. Folks joining the mission were half way across the water to the enemy base before the ones that were tasked with killing the town realized they were carrying torps. We told them they are great town killers. The goons in the mission were carrying GV supplies. For some reason some thought we would not succeed. We succeeded in having a great laugh but did not capture the base.... who'd a thunk.  :aok
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Re: Stuka Vs C205
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2008, 02:46:17 PM »
anytime I am in anything and go up against anyone in a A-20 Im like....WTF  :eek:

I was in an A-20 humting GVs defending a V/base and got jumped by a P-39L who came screaming down with alot of E... I turned and got the overshoot, He turned and dumped his E advantage, I reversed and came up on his 6 and "BLAMMO" with the nose .50 cals... the 38 exploded so fast that I don't think he knew what hit him!
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Re: Stuka Vs C205
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2008, 03:00:30 PM »
I was in a D3A over TT one day...I got caught up in a fight with a Nik and Lgay7...killed the Nik in a turn w/peashooters and LA7 ran like a mofo
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Re: Stuka Vs C205
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2008, 03:05:21 PM »
I was in a D3A over TT one day...I got caught up in a fight with a Nik and Lgay7...killed the Nik in a turn w/peashooters and LA7 ran like a mofo

I got in about a 5-10 minute turn fight one night in a Spit XVI against a D3A.  That guy pinged the crap out of me.  At one point he was saddled up and it sounded like hail hitting my Spit.  I did finally prevail against him but he put up a good fight.
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Re: Stuka Vs C205
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2008, 03:30:20 PM »
  Would love to see some other oddball/overmatched dogfighting stories here...

I remember getting on and pinging a 190 who tried to flat turn with me, then extend, then re-attack, in a SBD. Did this little dance 3 times before a friendly La7 came along and slew the 190.

This is a good example of how an antique is often better than a more "uber" plane at the one technique that most use in the MA anyway, pulling back the stick as far back as possible and riding the stall. Those who are actually attempting to dogfight. Put a few 20MMs on the Val and it would be flown more than the P-51, La7, Spit, and N1K combined, I think. :D

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Re: Stuka Vs C205
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2008, 04:08:06 PM »
I was attacking a vbase with some squaddies last night in Stukas.  Well we get over the Vbase, drop ord and begin exfiltrating out to friendly skies.  I check my six and see a C205 closing from 5.5k out.  I figure I can't outrun him, so I turn the nose toward him, and figure I will get in whatever licks I can before paying the piper.  First high speed pass he damages me, but jinking saved me from a full blown HO.  I reverse into him and actually get some snapshots into him with the teeny tiny guns on my Stuka.  He decides he is gonna turn with me trying to get a tail shot so I figure what the heck, let's do this!  I gain on him in the turnfest, and ping him a few more times.  This is where the story gets odd, he runs to the Vbases ack/Wirbels with a Stuka chasing him!  A STUKA!  Anyway, everytime I tried to head back to my airfield, he would come flying out of the ack, throttle to the floor, trying to nail me.  This dance happened three times in a row, exactly the same each time, before he got me.  Would love to see some other oddball/overmatched dogfighting stories here...
mossie vs spit....did the same thing using town ack........but then again, i did the same ting in a f6f vs a zeke last night......as hard as i tried i couldn't get his 6..so i extended to the ack, he'd turn off, i'd go after him again...i didn't know any other way to handle it though......even without the aCK, i'd have had to keep extending out i think.
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Re: Stuka Vs C205
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2008, 04:24:35 PM »
Years ago I tagged a 262 in a Spit I. I took off part of his wing and one engine. He turned to head back to his base, I followed to make sure he didn't try to ditch. He just dropped out of view when I got the kill message. I had to watch the film to see he crashed on approach.

 Other than fighting a pair of ponies in a goon, that kill was the most memorable.

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Re: Stuka Vs C205
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2008, 04:28:19 PM »
I've done B-25C (solid nose) vs spits. I winged up with a squaddie and dog-fought a couple of these. Was.... "interesting"...

Also flew a Boston III with 4x .303s as a fighter vs a c202 and ended up winning (barely). I've done B-26 vs B-24, B-25H vs Lancaster, B-17G vs IL2, B-17G vs Ju88 (both b17s single planes vs single planes), and some other funky matchups.

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Re: Stuka Vs C205
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2008, 04:46:49 PM »
...This is where the story gets odd, he runs to the Vbases ack/Wirbels with a Stuka chasing him!  A STUKA!  Anyway, everytime I tried to head back to my airfield, he would come flying out of the ack, throttle to the floor, trying to nail me. 

I'm not sure why you find this "odd".  In fact, I would expect nothing less from 95% of players.  So scared to die they run to ack.  Bet even if you had been in a B5N on his 6 he'd still run.

This dance happened three times in a row, exactly the same each time, before he got me. 

We need a name.  You should've called out his dweebery on Ch200 and let everyone know.