Is a real hammerhead possible?

[Tr1gg22]

I know I have done them in the RV, P51,SPIT, KI,A6M5, not sure I have had any It could not be done, some are much more difficult than others.

Also can you describe exactly what you think a Hammer head is?

  going into verticle using aileron and rudder to keep perfect verticle line...Maybe a little throttle control....actually ur suppose to chop throttle then when ur bout to stall full throttle.Keeping ur plane with aileron and rudder in the same verticle line.Then ur plane is suppose to wing over cartwheel directly back down same path within a planes length...This is what a hammerhead is its not actually a stall..Or tail slide..I can do it in the rv 8 also...but not in 51 or spitty..I can forse most planes into somthin similar but its not a true hammerhead...

[SkyRock]

If anyone could post some AH II film on how they did it, it would be great. I've tried, and they are sort of hammerheads, not pretty to look at; however, I may be doing them wrong.

I did a hammerhead yesterday with Noviche riding with me in an f4u-1.  I was at the bottom of a rope and the guy didnt pull his tight, I did and fell in behind him. 

[TwentyFo]

Effect taught me how to do the hammerhead in the P38. Here are the steps.

1.) Get speed and climb directly up using full power.
2.) Once airspeed is slow enough, deploy 3 notches of flaps and keep it in the vert.
3.) Right before stall happens give it maximum left rudder.
4.) Hopefully, if you've done it right, a hammerhead manuever will be executed.

It takes some practice to work on this manuever. But this is how I was taught the manuever. Hit me up in the MA if any of you guys want a demonstration.

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[Bosco123]

I know I have done them in the RV, P51,SPIT, KI,A6M5, not sure I have had any It could not be done, some are much more difficult than others.

Also can you describe exactly what you think a Hammer head is?

A hammerhead is basically a flat stall rudder turn in a vertical situation. I have only been able to do it once, against BK in a 38. I don't remember how I did it, but I do remeber doing it.

[Urchin]

I actually did an absolutely beautiful one, in a FIGHT no less, in a P-39D.  Was knife fighting some guy in a Hurri-2C, had about 270 degrees on him but we were in a flat turn to the left (was before the flaps patch)... I knew I was a dead man, so I relaxed my turn and got my speed up to about 180 mph.  He finally got around on me, doing about 130 or so I'd guess... I pulled up, went completely vertical, held in right rudder as I was about to stall and went over in a neat hammerhead, pretty as you please. 

First and only one I've ever done.

[Stang]

It's my only real gripe with the flight model, but considering how good the rest of it is it's no biggie to me.  I've pulled one a number of times in a Pitts with Mars, including tumbling, and the only plane in AH that can do anything like real life is the P-38.  No torque and great rudder allows it.  In single engine rides even throttled way back the nose wants to keep spinning around, you can't hold it still to get a wing to dip properly.  The only single engine plane I can get close to one in is the F6.  Haven't tried the P39 though.  The mid engine might help it fall back.

[SkyRock]

See Rules #4, #5

[Bucky73]

Is a "REAL" hammerhead possible in a game..................


hmmmmm


I'm gonna say Negatory Maverick

[manurin]

Works fine in corsairs (-1a), but as moot said, it's quite slow.

But I wouldn't wait to be too slow (stall) in order to keep a maximum rudder authority.

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[Bruv119]

sharks fly?   

[mechanic]

 

[1Duke1]

I actually did an absolutely beautiful one, in a FIGHT no less, in a P-39D.  Was knife fighting some guy in a Hurri-2C, had about 270 degrees on him but we were in a flat turn to the left (was before the flaps patch)... I knew I was a dead man, so I relaxed my turn and got my speed up to about 180 mph.  He finally got around on me, doing about 130 or so I'd guess... I pulled up, went completely vertical, held in right rudder as I was about to stall and went over in a neat hammerhead, pretty as you please. 

First and only one I've ever done.

Speaking of Mars....does he still fly AH?  Haven't seen him around in awhile.

[bongaroo]

Mars the CO of The Screamin Meanies?   <TSM>

If its the same guy than yes he does still fly.  A lot of the TSM fellows aren't on a whole lot but you should feel free to meet up with us tonight for squad night.  Gets started around 10:00 pm eastern, bishops, vox 143.

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Oleg]

I would like to see film with hammerhead in any AH plane. My personal experience say its impossible, but you can do wingover instead.

http://www.furball.warbirdsiii.com/krod/images/wingover-anim.gif

[Yeager]

yeah, I dont think the AH physics allows true hammerheads.  As often as I try it never happens......its like the airflow generated by the prop at those low over the top speeds stops working the rudder after the initial 25-30 degrees........you need 180 degrees rotation to do a hammerhead.