Drank the glock-aid

[FrodeMk3]

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That has to be the ugliest gun I have ever seen. It just needs some neon, a big wing, and a nissian skyline to ride around in. A pink one.

Those sights' look kinda ackward for a quick-draw, to me.

[GFShill]

I'll stick with my M1 carbine with the 15-rnd mag pouch on the buttstock, that jams every 4th round.  Call me old-fashioned.

[Toad]

I'd call you a person in need of either gunsmith or a new magazine.. maybe both!   

[LTARGlok]

Riddle me this ltardtard, doesnt the extended barrel defeat the concealability a bit?

Still, what isnt ugly about it? The sites, the fan boy barrel, the stainless mag release..... it all screams I am ricer who owns guns.

The Glock 26 barrel is only 3.46 inches.  Adding another half inch with an extended barrel thus still leaves the gun under a 4 inch barrel length.    So no, concealability is still no problem with the gun.

Virtually all of the leading practical pistol competitors use extended barrels on their competition guns.   Would you call them a "ricer" to their face?

Here is a nice handgun cutomized for unlimited OPEN IPSC competition:


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[Masherbrum]

The Glock 26 barrel is only 3.46 inches.  Adding another half inch with an extended barrel thus still leaves the gun under a 4 inch barrel length.    So no, concealability is still no problem with the gun.

Virtually all of the leading practical pistol competitors use extended barrels on their competition guns.   Would you call them a "ricer" to their face?

Here is a nice handgun cutomized for unlimited OPEN IPSC competition:

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Competition........Home Defense.......No comparisons between the two.   It is ugly and too small for me.

[BBBB]

Just teach her to use a 2 handed rack and don't bother with the slide release.

 This applies to you also. I use to carry a Glock 19 for CCW carry. I still do some times. The Glock series of pistols are pretty good the way they come from the factory. My only hang up with them has to do with the trigger that feels like one of those cheap dart guns you might have played with as a kid and the sights being off for me.

 I say sights being off for me because of my grip. There is not a whole lot of weight on the bottom of the pistol and it is very easy to twist the pistol ever so slightly to the left when I fire. This throws my shots about six inches to the left at 25 feet. A simple tap over job on the sights brings my shots to the center. I did this because you need to have the same grip for every pistol, so in this case I adapted the gun to me, instead of the other way around.

 As for the slide release and the mag release being small. There is a way around this..two ways really. For the slide release as pyro suggested simply rack the slide during the reload process rather than pressing the slide release. This is a better habit to get into anyways, because when the gun is dirty and you use the slide release there are times the slide will not move all the way forward. Causing you to "tap" the back of the slide forward to move the slide into its full position. By reaching up with you loading hand and pulling the slide back and letting it slam froward on it's own you are making sure the slide is in its full froward position by force.

 There are a lot of websites out there that will sell you grip plugs, extended slide releases, extended mag releases..ect. You do not need these things. Male or female. My wife has a Glock 26 that is bone stock and she operates/shoots with without a problem.

 When I get home I will have my wife take some pictures of what I am talking about. I will show you a pretty much a fail safe way to do a quick reload and bring the weapon quickly back into action no matter what condition to weapon is.

One question, is your G19 a new gun? If so do you have the new "drop free" mags?
Ironicly enough I happen to be carrying my Glock 19 today. Mine is pretty new. I have an older one. This one I picked up last year. It has factory night sights (which work wonderfully). I have provided pictures of what the old mags look like versus the new mags. If you have the old style mags don't worry. They are fine. They are just not drop free mags like the new ones are. However the old ones still should drop free most of the time if they are empty. The mag loaded in my Glock 19 right now is an old style mag. I have two new mags in my mag holders as back ups.

You will have to forgive the quality. I took these just now at work and edited them with paint to show the difference between the old mags and the new ones. For reference the feed ramps on the new mags are slightly bigger and sit higher up in the mag. This gives the bullets a different feed angle. However as I said before this does not matter, as the old style mags are just as reliable as the new ones.






 I will take those grip photos tonight and upload them for you. It should help you over come that small slide release problem you are having. It will also help you clear a stuck mag in the mag well. Have fun with your new Glock. They are good little shooters.

[Modas]

For the slide release as pyro suggested simply rack the slide during the reload process rather than pressing the slide release. This is a better habit to get into anyways, because when the gun is dirty and you use the slide release there are times the slide will not move all the way forward. Causing you to "tap" the back of the slide forward to move the slide into its full position. By reaching up with you loading hand and pulling the slide back and letting it slam froward on it's own you are making sure the slide is in its full froward position by force.

One question, is your G19 a new gun? If so do you have the new "drop free" mags?

Thanks Guys -

the g19 is brand new (I think gen 3 frame with the rail for accessory mounts).  I'm not familiar enough with the pistol yet to quite understand what you mean when you say "rack the slide during reload".   After the last shot, the slide stays back.  I was under the impression the only way to release the slide after putting in a new magazine was to press the slide release.  Can the slide be racked (farther back) when its in the open position?

I don't plan on tricking it out with all sorts of accessories.  I'll put night sights on it, and maybe a tactical light on the rail.  I'm still up in the air on the light.  I prefer to keep it simple.  In a stressed situation, the less crap to worry about the better.

[Toad]

Yes, pulling back a bit further on the slide and releasing it will chamber a round after inserting a new magazine.

[Mini D]

The slide will lock on the last round. If you insert a new loaded mag, you can pull the slide back and then either let it slide forward on it's own or guide it forward (keeping your hand on it). You do not need to use the slide release. I have a Taurus with a rather large slide release that is nearly impossible to actually release the slide with. This method is necessary.

I recomend against adding anything to the mass of the gun. Night sights are fine, but adding anything that would/could cause the gun to get hung up on something just isn't worth the risk. Fancy sights go on target pistols, not self defense weapons. As sleek as possible should be the rule.

LTARGlok.. that pistol pictured has so much added to it that you could have gone up to a larger model and had it be much more practical, less likely to hang up on something and be more controllable while still being the same size as that gun (with attatchments).

[Maverick]

I started out carrying a Glock 17 for duty. Later on I got a 19 for off duty as it was basically about the same size as my Officers model, It shot so nice that I started carrying it for both on and off duty. I had to get the slide chromed as the stock black treatment developed wear spots pretty badly after a few years.

I also have a 26 and a 27. If I were to carry either one of those I'd not put any extentions on them as the best feature they have is the compact size. If I needed a barrel extension I'd be better off carrying the 19 again. I do not put any after market bling sights on any of my "serious" weapons. In extremis you won't likely see the rear sight anyhow. Just seeing the front will get you in the ball park for snap shots. If you have time to aim carefully the stock sights are fine.

[Strip]

When I used to shoot a 24C (longest Glock made with a ported barrel) in competition I never used the slide release. Slap the mag in and the slide falls off the slide catch. Most Glocks I ever shot did this pretty easy but were used every week. Some with only a few 1000 rounds might not be so willing.

I second the "drop free" mags. If you ever have to change a clip in a hurry you dont want to be fumbling around trying to strip the old one out.

Strip

[Terror]

When at slide lock, always rack the slide to chamber a round, never use the thumb to release the slide lock.  At least that is what Glock factory reps will teach at their courses.  The reasoning is the little bit of extra compression on the recoil spring and extra inertial force will ensure the slide going to full battery and less chance for the top round in a tight magazine from stopping the correct functioning of the firearm.  Also, racking the slide is a "gross motor skill", where the using the thumb to release the slide lock is a "fine motor skill".  And fine motor skills are reduced in high stress situations....

Terror
-Glock Factory Certified Armorer

[LTARGlok]

Competition........Home Defense.......No comparisons between the two.   It is ugly and too small for me.

Ah, put you are not paying attention here.   I did not mention some type of handgun target type competition like the Olympic International style events, or the NRA's Bullseye type competitions, which are both simply about skill and accuracy.   People use guns specifically designed to just accurately punch holes in paper for those types of target shooting events.

Practical Pistol is about combat shooting.  It is designed specifically to improve combat skills.   You even have to use ammunition that meets specific power ratings.  Now there are many subcategories within Practical Pistol.   They can range from only allowing pistols that are exactly as they came from the factory, without any changes at all, to the OPEN category, where just about anything goes.

So technology developed for Practical style competition most definitely can be useful for real world self-defense.

You would seem to argue that handgun technology remain static, and not advance at all.

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[LTARGlok]

Yes, pulling back a bit further on the slide and releasing it will chamber a round after inserting a new magazine.

While all of this is true, it is also true that it takes more time and effort than just using the slide release button.

It take no more effort for me to release the slide, than it does to press the magazine eject button.   In fact, probably less effort.

And since my left hand is busy inserting the new mag, I can ready my thumb over the slide release, so that the instant the mag is inserted, the slide will go forward and reload the gun.

Now if someone does not have a very well coordinated thumb, then I suppose this other technique would be better. 

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[Shuffler]

I know a guy with uncoordinated thumbs..... he was hitch hiking from Houston to Oklahoma and ended up in Kalifornia.