how much are you willing to pay....

[lazs2]

To end.. well.. lower... mans contribution to Co2?

Not.. is co2 gonna cook us all.. say you believe that.. say you don't really know....

What is an amount you are willing to pay.. not the amount you are willing to make someone else pay... but you.

If everyone had to pay a flat new tax.. would you say you would be happy with a $10,000 increase every year in your tax burden?

$5,000?  $1,000?

If you drive.. would a buck a gallon tax be fair to you to "just do something"? 

How much are you willing to pay yourself?  "just in case".

lazs

[Hornet33]

tre fiddy

Just because I don't buy into the whole global warming thing. No conclusive science yet to prove it, just a bunch of theories.

[lazs2]

me.. I am willing to not pollute any more than is practical.. I never have been much of a waster.. I have recycled cars all my life and don't really use much except for my hot rods that get 12 mpg for 10,000 miles a year or so.. my power bill is a hundreth of what most of the finger pointers is..  I don't even make a lot of garbage.

I am willing to buy a solar system for the house if the cost works out to be about the same as my electric bill.. or a little more.  I might build a fun electric hot rod for getting around.

I ride an old BMW to the store and such and it gets 55 mpg and does high 12 sec quarter miles.

I don't fly around in jets.

I use those light bulby things full of mercury cause they work well and cost less and last longer.  I don't use many batteries...

I am unwilling to pay a cent more in tax.

lazs

[NOT]

Not.. is co2 gonna cook us all.. say you believe that.. say you don't really know....

why ya askin me??  i'm not saying anything without my lawyer present..................  because, i dont really know...............






NOT

[AKIron]

I'm willing to set an energy ration equal to what the average Joe needs. Force everyone to comply including Al Gore, no execptions. This would end the "Climate Crisis" in about 3 months.

[Airhead]

Rather than pay more taxes (since taxes are a hole where money disappears) I'd rather see us use a bit more common sense and actually work to reduce or redirect our energy consumption to less polluting forms of energy.

My angst as a liberal is my fellow liberals get too tied up in catch phrases and buzzwords- say "Nuclear power" to a liberal and they are immediately, and automatically, opposed on "safety" grounds, and their minds are so closed to the concept of nuclear power, and drilling for oil off our shore, that California gets the majority of its power needs from coal fired plants in the Midwest...here we are, the State that is screaming the most about global warming and greenhouse gasses, producing the most pollution. I would love to have politicians who educate themselvees then educate the electorate instead of this nonthinking, cliche spewing lazy a-holes we have in Sacramento now.

Oh, and solar power is a joke- it would take a solar panel grid the size of a football field to provide you with the power it takes to run that 52in. TV, hair dryers, microwaves etc. that we are accustomed to. Unless you like dim light and black and white 12 in. TVs forget about solar. Wind power is also a joke and wind generators are being built only because PG&E gets a HUGE tax break by putting them up. Hydroelectric is less and less a factor on our power consumption, too. We're decommissioning old dams without replacing them- try to build a new one (not that we could in today's economy) and the Sierra Club will injunction you to death.

No Lazs, I'm not willing to pay a penny more in energy taxes than I already do. I vote we continue to let this be market driven rather than subsidized- my PG&E bill, between my shop and my house, runs 600.00 a month, and there's already a bunch of taxes on it.

BTW- Who really uses the most gas anyway? The guy with the hot rod that gets driven once a month or the guy with the hybrid who commutes 200 miles every day? My pickup gets 12 miles per gallon, but my commute is slightly more than a mile so I use approximately a gallon of gas a week for my commute- how much gas does that guy burn who commutes from Elk Grove to San Francisco in his hybrid?

[Maverick]

I let my dog water a tree. We got our contribution covered.
 

[Eagler]

I let my dog water a tree. We got our contribution covered.
 

exactly - if the issue is Co2, have us plant trees or legalize pot and the dopers will plant enough to cover it all
LOL

[wrongwayric]

I'm saving water, i pee outside. I replaced all my lightbulbs with the energy saving flourescent ones. They save me about 10 bucks a month on my electric bill. My brother did the same in his house, wife and 3 kids, he saved about 45 dollars a month by doing that. The best i've seen so far is my barber. He lives about 1.5 miles from his shop, he's 67 and used to drive to work every day, now he rides a pedal bike to work. Says he saves about 10 bucks a week now as he used to tool around town after work in the car but now that he bikes in he just goes pretty much straight home. He also says he feels better because of the exercise and has lost some weight also.

[Airhead]

I wanted to ride my bike to and from work but my wife said no cause we live in a small town and she didn't want people to think I'd lost my license and HAD to ride a bike.

[Dragdad]

No offense, but I gotta call bs on your take on solar. My friend just recently built a new 5000 sq. ft. home in California. One area of his roof is solar, and the panels look as if they are the same as the shingles of the roof. Very attractive. The cool part is that this 1500 sq. ft. solar system reduces his power consumption to the point that there are times when he sells energy back to the grid, and PG&E credits his account. In the dead of winter and the dead of summer, his bills are 80 dollars a month. 4 out of 12 months, he receives a credit to his account, as the solar system is sufficient to run the house. I've seen his bills, 've seen his solar system. Was it cheap? Nope.. like 75 grand. But it pays out in the long run, and is good for the community.
Jus sayin.

[Airhead]

I got my football-sized solar array "fact" from Dr. Waffenberg on KGO.  I'll accept your first hand experience over his radio show. Still, tho, 75 grand is a ton of money for Joe Average living in a 1500 sq. ft. home to come up with.

[texasmom]

To end.. well.. lower... mans contribution to Co2?
lazs

None, until it was definitively shown why I should pay anything to begin with.

[SIK1]

Rather than pay more taxes (since taxes are a hole where money disappears) I'd rather see us use a bit more common sense and actually work to reduce or redirect our energy consumption to less polluting forms of energy.

My angst as a liberal is my fellow liberals get too tied up in catch phrases and buzzwords- say "Nuclear power" to a liberal and they are immediately, and automatically, opposed on "safety" grounds, and their minds are so closed to the concept of nuclear power, and drilling for oil off our shore, that California gets the majority of its power needs from coal fired plants in the Midwest...here we are, the State that is screaming the most about global warming and greenhouse gasses, producing the most pollution. I would love to have politicians who educate themselvees then educate the electorate instead of this nonthinking, cliche spewing lazy a-holes we have in Sacramento now.

You might want to check your facts. According to this document: http://www.cpuc.ca.gov/cfaqs/howhighiscaliforniaselectricitydemandandwheredoesthepowercomefrom.htm
Fifteen percent to 30 percent of statewide electricity demand is served from sources outside state borders.

Last time I checked, and correct me if I'm wrong but there is no safe way to dispose of spent nuclear fuel. Is that the kind of legacy you want to leave your children?

Oh, and solar power is a joke- it would take a solar panel grid the size of a football field to provide you with the power it takes to run that 52in. TV, hair dryers, microwaves etc. that we are accustomed to. Unless you like dim light and black and white 12 in. TVs forget about solar. Wind power is also a joke and wind generators are being built only because PG&E gets a HUGE tax break by putting them up. Hydroelectric is less and less a factor on our power consumption, too. We're decommissioning old dams without replacing them- try to build a new one (not that we could in today's economy) and the Sierra Club will injunction you to death.

"a bit more common sense" Solar power is a viable alternative, yes it is a substantial cost up front, but it starts paying for itself almost immediately. It does not produce harmful emisions other than those at time of manufacter, and disposal. You pay no taxes on the enregy you use from solar cells that you own.

No Lazs, I'm not willing to pay a penny more in energy taxes than I already do. I vote we continue to let this be market driven rather than subsidized- my PG&E bill, between my shop and my house, runs 600.00 a month, and there's already a bunch of taxes on it.

Just because the cost of energy is market driven does not mean that the taxes will not rise. Just look at the taxes on fuel for motor vehicles in CA.

BTW- Who really uses the most gas anyway? The guy with the hot rod that gets driven once a month or the guy with the hybrid who commutes 200 miles every day? My pickup gets 12 miles per gallon, but my commute is slightly more than a mile so I use approximately a gallon of gas a week for my commute- how much gas does that guy burn who commutes from Elk Grove to San Francisco in his hybrid?

Your old pickup that gets 12 miles to the gallon produces more harmful emisions than the hybrid prius per gallon of fuel burned. You would be better off walking the mile to work and back not only is it better for the environment but it would be better for you as well.

"My angst as a liberal" may be due to the fact that you really want to be a gun tote'n, beer drinkin', gas guzzler drivin' conservative.

[Holden McGroin]

I would be more willing to go completely green if that means we could flip off the arabs.