Mass groups such as this are fun to go up against.
As for flying with them it's no fun as they are racing eachother to try to get that lone kill.
We keep our SAPP events relatively small and even tell folks where we are to get fights. We still find on many occassions that when we enter a sector it clears out. There are your great groups who like a good fight and they'll come find us. <S> to those groups!