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Offline Anaxogoras

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Ingredients for a successful mission
« on: April 19, 2008, 05:10:01 AM »
Posting a mission that's open to the public and having it be successful is undoubtedly not easy.  For my own part, I do not post missions but I will fly them occasionally if the time is right.  Maybe once I gain more experience as to what is and is not a good idea I will post some missions of my own.

On the other hand, one thing that is clear is that selecting the right aircraft combinations and ordinance is paramount.  Even if other pilots know better than you, they have to take what you give them.  Here are a couple of choices that often turn into mistakes:

1: Having every aircraft take ordinance.  Bombs and rockets slow down fighters and leave them vulnerable to interceptors.  Some mission participants should fly light fighters to provide efficient cover.  The worst example of this was a mission I flew where P-51s were supposed to escort B-17s, but the 51s were assigned a full load of ordinance. :rolleyes:

2: Assigning 190s or 110s to carry air-air rockets for ground attack.  The tubes are not jettisonable and the rockets auto-detonate at a certain distance.  Instead, the 110G can carry extra small bombs, and the 190F8 carries true air to ground rockets (12 of them).

3: Over-reliance on aircraft like the Niki.  Yes, it has cannons and can carry some bombs, but in a multi-vs-multi fight where speed is important, it leaves a lot to be desired.

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Offline EskimoJoe

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Re: Ingredients for a successful mission
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2008, 05:42:46 AM »
TEAMWORK! Teamwork is the most essential thing required in a mission, other than aircraft and ammunition!
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Re: Ingredients for a successful mission
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2008, 08:17:59 AM »
Having aircraft take ord can be detrimental,but if they dont need it,(depends on mission objectives),Can always have them dump it OTW..

 I used to put rockets on the 110's,but not much anymore..the samll bombs under the wings do just fine..

  The niki is not a bad plane to use in my opinion for escort.But being bish we dont usually have the chance to use them due to ENY,and so rely on something like the 190's..

 As far as people HAVING to take the mission planes,You as a mission planner,must be able to adjust plane-sets sometimes.
  especially if you put a new plane in,just for a change,and someone says add this to it,or take away that from it..I will use the p-38J for high eny missions,but someone will ask for the L,and I will put it in if I can..I dont make a habit of changing planes in missions,but it has happened..

  And the threat"I would join if you put in THIS plane,gets really old"..Let em sit it out.. :lol

 But there are exceptions,and those are usually the noobs.


    And I agree with eskimojoe..TEAMWORK...

 JUst throw em up,and listen to the response of others on country as to what will work and not work..After awhile,you will get a feel for what ou need to accomplish your objective,wether it be a bombing raid or a base capture..

  Like 110's dont need 100% fuel to go one sector,Typhoons Also dont need 100% to go one sector..minor adjustements such as these,will help your missions to be more efficient,and efficency is what you want,I know I try to keep it as tight as possible,and while to some it may not be fun to operate at that level,to most I believe it is..

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Re: Ingredients for a successful mission
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2008, 10:25:01 AM »
A couple very fun missions come to mind.  Here's one.

Gosh, 4 years ago or more.  On one, I had the usual suspects of hot rods with ord.  Did a fine job dive bombing VH and strafing ack, and setting up a cap.  I also staged some Hurri 2C's, maybe 6.  They were several minutes behind though taking off at the same time.

Just as the cap grew wobbly, the Hurri's arrived.  Was just too cool.  Perfect timing.  You could almost feel the dispiritedness of the defenders.

FM2's, Hurri's, Zeke's, and what not's make great 2nd "wave'ers".  Too much fun too.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2008, 10:27:20 AM by Hap »

Offline ROX

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Re: Ingredients for a successful mission
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2008, 10:48:45 AM »
There is a very scientific formula to a successful mission...but if I told you, I'd have to kill you.


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Re: Ingredients for a successful mission
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2008, 12:30:39 PM »
I've seen missions run with 110s, TYPHs, 109g6's, and 6 IL2s! There happened to be a LOT of teamwork that night...and there ended up being 8 110's, 6 TYPH's, 7 109G6's and all 6 IL2's...110s knocked down town, with the TYPH's help after deack and VH. G6's have the turn to get a good vulch on and they did it well. Once the 109's and TYPH's started to run out of ammo the Bish upped in masses. 6 guys upped at the same time, but low and behold, the IL2's showed up and knocked them down with ease. Ended up getting the base soon thereafter.
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Re: Ingredients for a successful mission
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2008, 12:44:05 PM »
A "Mission" as it relates to the game itself is used different to a certain extent.  If you post up on public that there is a mission, you get 40 or 50 guys in to get together, roll 10 set's of buffs, 20-30 or so attack/fighters and 10 or so fighter's for escort.  Grab a goon or two and roll.  Bombers hit hangers, attack hits town and fighters clean up anything coming in and protect the goon(s).  There, that's a mission...
BUT!, here is where it can be seen different.  A squad of 10 or so guys can take a base as well, it just takes some teamwork and timing to hit each target the first time (or within the time allowed).
Missions are fun, but to a certain extent.  A lot of times it becomes a horde, but that is what it was when you attacked someplace in the past in war.  You brought more ordnance, more men, more planes than the other guy and hit them hard to the point of them giving up.  But when they don't give up and fight for hours... now that is a fun night! :rock
Fun missions a when you hit 4 or 5 bases with 100+ people like the old RJO's of the past. :devil
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Re: Ingredients for a successful mission
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2008, 01:23:28 PM »
There is a very scientific formula to a successful mission...but if I told you, I'd have to kill you.


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EDIT:BTW, the biggest problem with mission posters nowadays is way to many aircraft choices. Any time I post a mission (which is very rarely) it has one aircraft type. And those missions are usually pretty successful.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2008, 01:26:24 PM by Dace »

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Re: Ingredients for a successful mission
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2008, 01:28:40 PM »
I use an assortment of fighters.

110's with 500kg bombs
mossies 4 500lbs bombs(extra canon)
P38L's 2 100lbs and rockets
N1k's with the bombs and big canon package
Tiff's with 1000lbs bombs
Goon

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Re: Ingredients for a successful mission
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2008, 01:34:13 PM »
All you need for a successful mission is a hoard.  Nothing else matters.
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Re: Ingredients for a successful mission
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2008, 05:13:03 PM »
I use an assortment of fighters.

110's with 500kg bombs
mossies 4 500lbs bombs(extra canon)
P38L's 2 100lbs and rockets
N1k's with the bombs and big canon package
Tiff's with 1000lbs bombs
Goon
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Those have camera's on them! COOL!! :rock  What's the BIG camera on the Niki look like...  :D
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Re: Ingredients for a successful mission
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2008, 05:23:51 PM »
To take a base you need organization more than numbers.  It is really fun when my squadies who are quite experienced perfectly time when planes come in and it takes the town down and vh and vulch is set up.  Its great to see something like that work.

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Re: Ingredients for a successful mission
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2008, 05:25:34 PM »
Those have camera's on them! COOL!! :rock  What's the BIG camera on the Niki look like...  :D
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Re: Ingredients for a successful mission
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2008, 05:28:14 PM »
TEAMWORK! Teamwork is the most essential thing required in a mission, other than aircraft and ammunition!


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Re: Ingredients for a successful mission
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2008, 10:08:02 PM »
don't forget gv supplies for the flaks and torpedoes for the town!
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