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Offline Motherland

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Bf. 109 G5/AS
« on: April 19, 2008, 01:01:22 PM »
Could a G5/AS be skinned as a 109K4? It has the 'ballooned' section around the breaches of the MG131's, like the G10/K4 has, as well as an Erla hood and a tall rudder.
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Re: Bf. 109 G5/AS
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2008, 01:17:37 PM »
Have to decide if you want to match it to the performance curve more, or the weapons packages more. Tough call. I'd say good chance HTC will accept it as long as you spell out why (justify) your choice when submitting.
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Re: Bf. 109 G5/AS
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2008, 01:20:36 PM »
I think we have a g-14 (Black 14) that is was actually a g-6/AS in real life. Fencer may have done the skin.

Edit: skin is 2/JG3
« Last Edit: April 19, 2008, 01:24:49 PM by TUXC »
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Re: Bf. 109 G5/AS
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2008, 08:55:37 PM »
Quote from: Motherland on April 19, 2008, 01:01:22 PM
Could a G5/AS be skinned as a 109K4? It has the 'ballooned' section around the breaches of the MG131's, like the G10/K4 has, as well as an Erla hood and a tall rudder.

The performance is so different that I would suggest not doing it.

It's too gamey.

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Re: Bf. 109 G5/AS
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2008, 09:36:08 PM »
Quote from: TUXC on April 19, 2008, 01:20:36 PM
I think we have a g-14 (Black 14) that is was actually a g-6/AS in real life. Fencer may have done the skin.

Edit: skin is 2/JG3

That's correct.
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Re: Bf. 109 G5/AS
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2008, 10:48:15 PM »
Quote from: Xasthur on April 19, 2008, 08:55:37 PM
The performance is so different that I would suggest not doing it.

It's too gamey.


I was under the impression that the AS G5's and G6's had very good performance?
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Offline Xasthur

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Re: Bf. 109 G5/AS
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2008, 01:10:57 AM »
High altitude performance, yes, but as far as I recall they're nothing like the K4 performance wise.

The way I'm looking at is that there are many other K4s to be skinned before we start slotting other aircraft in as K4s.

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Re: Bf. 109 G5/AS
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2008, 04:59:53 PM »
Quote from: Motherland on April 19, 2008, 10:48:15 PM
I was under the impression that the AS G5's and G6's had very good performance?

AS versions had similar performance as regular g-5/6 up to about 20-22k. Significantly better performance above that.
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Re: Bf. 109 G5/AS
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2008, 01:25:50 AM »
Bf.109G-6AS is a high altitude performer.
It is my favorite mount in IL2 for high altitude work.
The N2O injection to the air intake is superior to the WM50 for high altitude use.
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Offline Motherland

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Re: Bf. 109 G5/AS
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2008, 11:48:57 PM »
Just doesnt look right as a G14...

K4


G14


Ill post a profile tomorrow. BTW, the pilot is Gruppenkommandeur of II/JG11, Gunther Specht.


Oh, and I have the WkNr for this aircraft, too... where should that go on the G5/AS? Right above the horizontal stabilizer, like the G6?
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Re: Bf. 109 G5/AS
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2008, 12:39:15 AM »
Must say, it looks better on the K-4.
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Re: Bf. 109 G5/AS
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2008, 02:05:45 AM »
K4s never featured camo patterns like that.

If anything, submit it as a G2. It's like I said, there are lots of K4s to be done... It doesn't make any sense to force a G5 onto a K4 when there are still so many K4s to be done.

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Re: Bf. 109 G5/AS
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2008, 11:03:56 AM »
Quote from: Xasthur on April 22, 2008, 02:05:45 AM
K4s never featured camo patterns like that.

If anything, submit it as a G2. It's like I said, there are lots of K4s to be done... It doesn't make any sense to force a G5 onto a K4 when there are still so many K4s to be done.

Gotta concur with Xasthur.  Its not a good fit for a K4.
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Re: Bf. 109 G5/AS
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2008, 11:32:57 AM »
As a G2? It looks almost nothing like a G2- it has the 'ballooned fuselage' for the MG-131's, and Erla hood, and a tall rudder, and was probably equipped with a Mk-108, considering it was in an Reich Defense unit during mid-1944. A G2 has none of those things, including MG131s. Plus, the fact that we dont have any RLM74/75/76 109K's in game only makes me want to do a stand in even more  :lol
The removal of the G10 kind of makes it hard to do /AS aircraft. Excluding all of these so we can skin the late K, which I have found very little photographs of and most profiles I found are already done, doesnt make any sense IMO. Lots of very good looking aircraft that would add a bit of variety.
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Re: Bf. 109 G5/AS
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2008, 02:10:53 PM »
Any other sources ID this as a G5? I've seen sources showing G14s with all these things, included the bulged hood. It could also be a G10. Just curious.

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