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Germany Considers Video Surveillance Inside Private Homes
« on: April 20, 2008, 06:42:32 PM »
It seems that governments will spare no resource in their valiant fight to protect us from ourselves.:rolleyes:

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Changes proposed to the law governing Germany's federal criminal police operations would allow investigators to use wire taps and surveillance cameras in homes of innocent citizens to keep tabs on terror suspects.

Under the government proposals, federal police would be permitted to install "hidden technical equipment, that is to say bugs or cameras inside or outside apartments ... if there is a pressing danger for state security," interior ministry spokesman Stefan Paris said at a news conference on Friday, April 18.

 "I would urgently like to stress that there are very, very strict conditions ... and it is not the case that everywhere in this country secret cameras or listening devices will be installed in living spaces," he said. "It is about terrorist threats that would be averted through preventative measures by the federal police."

He added that such methods were already allowed in several German states.....

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3275668,00.html



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Re: Germany Considers Video Surveillance Inside Private Homes
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2008, 06:52:28 PM »
wow thank you for posting this on a us BBS!
maybe it will help everyone to discover the the practise of other
discount companys around the world who try similar techniques?

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Re: Germany Considers Video Surveillance Inside Private Homes
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2008, 07:17:54 PM »
I thought Hitler committed suicide back in the mid 40s.
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Re: Germany Considers Video Surveillance Inside Private Homes
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2008, 07:21:38 PM »
Oh noes Nazis!
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Re: Germany Considers Video Surveillance Inside Private Homes
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2008, 07:34:54 PM »
While smugly patting yourselves on the back, please note that the Patriot Act includes provisions for allowing this here too.  But we've been programmed to dismiss concerns like that as 'reactionary' or 'paranoid', so activate your programs and tell me how I'm a dirty hippy and how I'm trying to help the 'turrarists'  with my unamerican interest in preserving the constitution.
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2008, 07:38:41 PM »
Yep, the Patriot Act is nothing less then something Hitler or Stalin would have thought up.  Every time England or Germany does something like this, it give our government the excuse to do it here as well.
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Re: Germany Considers Video Surveillance Inside Private Homes
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2008, 08:31:42 PM »
Not to worry...if this type of thing ever happens in the U.S., we can always protest....in the appropriate free speech zone.

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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2008, 08:34:26 PM »
I value my privacy.....a lot.
Great for motels/hotels also.  :aok

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Re: Germany Considers Video Surveillance Inside Private Homes
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2008, 08:39:49 PM »
And what exactly does that gadget do?
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2008, 08:42:29 PM »
And what exactly does that gadget do?

Rf locater..video/audio.
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2008, 08:44:04 PM »
You need a lens detector to go with that for hardwired cameras:)

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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2008, 08:47:57 PM »
You need a lens detector to go with that for hardwired cameras:)

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Hardwireds are easy. :)
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Re: Germany Considers Video Surveillance Inside Private Homes
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2008, 09:09:37 PM »
So, you're able to detect 1960s era surveillance equipment! ;)
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2008, 09:22:18 PM »
You can detect anything from a broken heart to the break of day. It`s according to how much scratch you want to put into it and how important it is to you in any particular situation.
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Re: Germany Considers Video Surveillance Inside Private Homes
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2008, 09:38:39 PM »
Heh, I'm afraid modern surveillance equipment is virtually electronically undetectable. They don't give themselves away by emitting signals.
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