Ben Stein vs. Sputtering Atheists

[Holden McGroin]

But if the a male from the furry tribe and one from the bikini tribe got it on, they would produce a HUMAN, right?

Not if the branches grew apart long enough.

After eons of isolation, they could have an offspring that was infertile.

Is a mule a horse or a donkey?

[moot]

Recent acceleration of human adaptive evolution

Genomic surveys in humans identify a large amount of recent positive selection. Using the 3.9-million HapMap SNP dataset, we found that selection has accelerated greatly during the last 40,000 years. We tested the null hypothesis that the observed age distribution of recent positively selected linkage blocks is consistent with a constant rate of adaptive substitution during human evolution. We show that a constant rate high enough to explain the number of recently selected variants would predict (i) site heterozygosity at least 10-fold lower than is observed in humans, (ii) a strong relationship of heterozygosity and local recombination rate, which is not observed in humans, (iii) an implausibly high number of adaptive substitutions between humans and chimpanzees, and (iv) nearly 100 times the observed number of high-frequency linkage disequilibrium blocks. Larger populations generate more new selected mutations, and we show the consistency of the observed data with the historical pattern of human population growth. We consider human demographic growth to be linked with past changes in human cultures and ecologies. Both processes have contributed to the extraordinarily rapid recent genetic evolution of our species.

[SirLoin]

Anyone who thinks there is some order or design to the universe should take a close look at the Andromeda galaxy(it can be seen with the naked eye)...3 billion years from now(mark it on your calender),this galaxy will collide with ours...our sun turns into a red dwarf,then a red giant and every living thing on this planet gets broiled alive.

Some design...and quite some designer.

[Donzo]

Anyone who thinks there is some order or design to the universe should take a close look at the Andromeda galaxy(it can be seen with the naked eye)...3 billion years from now(mark it on your calender),this galaxy will collide with ours...our sun turns into a red dwarf,then a red giant and every living thing on this planet gets broiled alive.

Some design...and quite some designer.

How does this indicate that there is/isn't a designer?

[SirLoin]

How does this indicate that there is/isn't a designer?

Are you talking about bringing on the armageddon?

[redman555]

im atheist = D have been for yrs now


-BigBOBCH

[Donzo]

Are you talking about bringing on the armageddon?

No, I'm asking how this show there is/isn't a designer.

[lambo31]

It's posts like these... this is an unarmed man attacking a machine gun nest.  You have no clue whatsoever on what you are talking about.  Organisms cannot "choose" traits.... they don't "pick" which ones might work and which ones won't.  Genetic variability shows up only  AFTER pressure is applied to the organism in question.... It's pretty much just "luck" as to which genetic trait is going to turn out positively for the organism.  Please go back and read up on what you are talking about, prior to speaking.

quick example... a random genetic variation allows .01% of the population of say, humans, access to immunity to H5n1.  Say the human population is 10,000, to keep  the numbers low.  Out of those 10,000, 100 would have this unlikely trait, and most likely not know it. H5n1 becomes, through mixing with another flu virus ( A CLEAR EXAMPLE OF EVOLUTION) airborne, and transfers from avian to simian host.  9,900 of the population have no defense against this new pressure.  100 have natural immunity.  Those 100 will survive and reproduce, because they were most readliy prepared for the selective pressure (H5n1) that the population faced.  A preponderance of the offspring will now carry that trait.

Ridiculing me will win me over every time     Shame that as smart as you would have us think you are that you would have to resort to insulting people.





Lambo

[moot]

Facts take a back seat to feelings.

By the way, that quote of Lewontin you posted doesn't say what you say it does.  And Moray hasn't insulted you in that post.  He posted facts, showed how far off you are from those facts, and wrote what he suggested as remedy to being so far off.

[storch]

H5n1 becomes, through mixing with another flu virus ( A CLEAR EXAMPLE OF EVOLUTION) airborne, and transfers from avian to simian host. 

  it would still be a virus it would not become anything other than a virus.

[storch]

Not if the branches grew apart long enough.

After eons of isolation, they could have an offspring that was infertile.

Is a mule a horse or a donkey?

  it is both. it is a hybrid.  there have been instances of mules being fertile though

[SirLoin]

No, I'm asking how this show there is/isn't a designer.

Are you sadistic then ?

[moot]

SirLoin you're doing the same thing they are. 

[Holden McGroin]

The point is that isolated populations of the same species will change according to local conditions and will eventually be dissimilar enough to be considered different species.

it is both. it is a hybrid.  there have been instances of mules being fertile though

There has never been a documented fertile male mule.

Human Chimpanzee hybrids have been rumored.  If such an animal is possible, is it both? 

[storch]

The point is that isolated populations of the same species will change according to local conditions and will eventually be dissimilar enough to be considered different species.

There has never been a documented fertile male mule.

Human Chimpanzee hybrids have been rumored.  If such an animal is possible, is it both? 

no only fertile female mules.  the humanzee has been proven to be false but the subject chimp was uncannily human looking.  here is a linky to oliver the suspected humanzee and his story.  www.rense.com/general67/oliver.htm