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http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=80713

Interesting to see what this will lead into.


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Re: Video: Russian(?) Mig29 shooting down a Georgian drone in Georgia
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2008, 07:43:00 AM »
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Re: Video: Russian(?) Mig29 shooting down a Georgian drone in Georgia
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2008, 08:17:42 AM »


WE have done nothing of the sort!!  :noid

But, but...unless you pay us ONE MILLION DOLLARS...we will do it again...bwehehehee!!

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Re: Video: Russian(?) Mig29 shooting down a Georgian drone in Georgia
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2008, 08:24:45 AM »
gotta love the Russian response       "nonsense."


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Re: Video: Russian(?) Mig29 shooting down a Georgian drone in Georgia
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2008, 08:31:12 AM »
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,234112.0.html

BTW, Abkhazian armed forces have two Su-27s.


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Re: Video: Russian(?) Mig29 shooting down a Georgian drone in Georgia
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2008, 10:51:09 AM »
Looks more like an Su-27 to me.  Watch it full screen here: -

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1313614,00.html

It is hard to tell, but to me, when it is first turning to attack, the profile looks more like a Su-27 than a Mig-29...  Also, the missile seems to come off the wingtip, does the 29 have wingtip pylons?
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Re: Video: Russian(?) Mig29 shooting down a Georgian drone in Georgia
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2008, 11:43:31 AM »

Mig-29 Fulcrum


Su-27 Flanker

Most likely that was a Su-27 that shot down the UAV. The missle is seen to come off the wingtip and the Mig-29 is not equiped with tip rails, but the Su-27 is and from a distance and looking through a camera lense they do appear similar in shape.
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Re: Video: Russian(?) Mig29 shooting down a Georgian drone in Georgia
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2008, 11:53:15 AM »
I believe that it is a mig29 and that the missle is bieng launch from the outer most pylon, but not from the wingtip, pause at the moment f launch and measure the wing. It seems that the distance and angle make it look like its fireing from the wingtip...

In any case the relative size of the plane makes me think its a mig, but i may easily be wrong..
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Re: Video: Russian(?) Mig29 shooting down a Georgian drone in Georgia
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2008, 12:23:30 PM »
I wonder what the bonus structure is for missile versus cannon kills?  Seems like it'd save a lot AND be a good indicator of ability to use guns.
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Re: Video: Russian(?) Mig29 shooting down a Georgian drone in Georgia
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2008, 04:09:19 PM »
From the front profile in the video it does kind of look like an SU-27 not a Mig 29.

It's hard too see for sure, but the intakes seem a bit too far apart to be a Mig. IIRC the Mig 29 intakes are rather close together (closer than a SU-27 anyway).

Also, to me anyway, it does look like the missile came off the end of the wing and not an underwing mounted pylon.

My money's on it being a Flanker, and the Russians had nothing to do with it.

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Re: Video: Russian(?) Mig29 shooting down a Georgian drone in Georgia
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2008, 04:19:19 PM »
People here agreed that it was indeed a MiG on that tape, firing a missile from outer-most hardpoint, plus only MiGs have such a nose painted black.

Anyway, it's obviously a fake because Abkhazians already showed two wrecks from Hermes drones, and this one was obviously shot down over sea.

Georgian drone was shot not over Georgia, but over Abkhazia. Abkhazia has much more rights for independence then Kosovo. And any military aircraft, including artillery recon drones, flying from Georgian side, are a direct violation of a cease-fire conditions, agreed and signed by all sides including Western observers.

I wonder what is going to happen if vermins will shoot down an Abkhazian/Osetian "Pchela" drone over Zugdidi or Gori. I expect 150dB screaming from Tbilisi and US DoS.

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Re: Video: Russian(?) Mig29 shooting down a Georgian drone in Georgia
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2008, 04:35:45 PM »
The Mig29s cannon must have its barrels changed after firing only a mere 150 rounds.  Its a lightweight cannon. 

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Re: Video: Russian(?) Mig29 shooting down a Georgian drone in Georgia
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2008, 04:39:00 PM »
At least Boroda agrees, it's a Mig 29, probably Russian. Boroda, have you ever considered a career in the FSB? You'd fit right in.

Those of you, who are right wing conservative Americans. Boroda is your opposite number in Russia. 'My country, right or wrong.'  I admire that. There a couple of people on this forum, often as not people who I don't neccessarily agree with, who have a viewpoint. Right wing, left wing, liberal or conservative or libertarian. Boroda is one, Lazs is another. They make life interesting. I have a feeling that if Lazs was born in the old CCCP and Boroda in the USA. Nothing would have changed. (Lazs, I am aware  you are libertarian, kinda, not right wing)

That's why it remains one of my favourite forums.

Great video though, drones have come a long way. But if we ever needed to know what it's like to be shot down by an AAM. That's it.




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Re: Video: Russian(?) Mig29 shooting down a Georgian drone in Georgia
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2008, 05:23:21 PM »
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The Mig29s cannon must have its barrels changed after firing only a mere 150 rounds.  Its a lightweight cannon. 

Wow, where do you come up with this stuff??

Have any credible information on this little tidbit?

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