An Inconvenient ....fiction

[iWalrus]

I dont give a poop if he got permision or not, that he used the clip in the movie without saying in his awfull droning voice, "this is a CGI simulation of whats happening", means he is a liar, but I knew that already from watching the steaming pile of dung he called a movie.

So at some point during the clip he said something like, "This is footage of what's really happening."? Or maybe at some point he said something to the effect that no CGI was used? Yes, if that's the case he certainly is a liar then.

Of course, he may be a liar for other reasons as well. I don't need any help with that issue. I'm just trying to figure out how he was lying by using this clip. Can anyone tell me?

[Holden McGroin]

It doesnt matter one wet willy if he had permission or not.   He used CGI graphics and presented them as real... he lied...

The charts and graphs he used are not natural either: they are artificial constructs...they show the prevailing theory, but are totally synthetic.

This is a pretty petty issue ASAIAC.

[Sox62]

So at some point during the clip he said something like, "This is footage of what's really happening."? Or maybe at some point he said something to the effect that no CGI was used? Yes, if that's the case he certainly is a liar then.

Of course, he may be a liar for other reasons as well. I don't need any help with that issue. I'm just trying to figure out how he was lying by using this clip. Can anyone tell me?

Hilarious.If you can't figure it out,then we're wasting bandwidth trying to explain it to you.

Up next:CNN demonstrates the horrors of war with clips from the movie "John Rambo".

[lazs2]

geeze walrus.. even when the guy gets caught red handed lieing to you..   you still worship at his feet because... just like the lefty critics and such....

The end justifies the means.

lazs

[Gunslinger]

Hilarious.If you can't figure it out,then we're wasting bandwidth trying to explain it to you.

Up next:CNN demonstrates the horrors of war with clips from the movie "John Rambo".

 

[AKIron]

but it's such an important issue that any lie or exaggeration is justified to move people to act

Ironic that the some of the people here who deride religion as an opiate have swallowed this kool-aid without even reading the label.

[lazs2]

the religion of socialism is..  "the end justifies the means"

honest people know that you only have the means.. the end is never clear as to if it is good or bad.. desirable or no.   All you have is the means.

lazs

[Samiam]

yet.. if Ben Stein had used the shot in his film as "proof" that it somehow showed that gods hand was involved...

The "critics" would have devoted several thousand websites to debunking it and showing the source of the CGI clip even before the movie was out.   

With a lefty agenda film..  they not only give a pass but all the highest honors they can.

No honest person can fail to see this.  Drink the kool aid indeed.

lazs

I think I'm an honest, objective person and:

Michael Moore is an intellectually dishonest boob who's so-called documentaries are really pure fictional entertainment with a wacko left-wing agenda.

Ben Stein is an intellectually dishonest boob who's so-called documentary is really pure fiction with a wacko right-wing agenda. (Can't really call "Expelled..." entertainment - at least Michael Moore occasionally succeeds at humor).

Al Gore, while taking some liberties and often overstating his case, is generally agreed by the vast majority of experts in the field as being mostly right on the science in his documentary and this information does nothing to rebut that.

[AKIron]

I think I'm an honest, objective person and:

Michael Moore is an intellectually dishonest boob who's so-called documentaries are really pure fictional entertainment with a wacko left-wing agenda.

Ben Stein is an intellectually dishonest boob who's so-called documentary is really pure fiction with a wacko right-wing agenda. (Can't really call "Expelled..." entertainment - at least Michael Moore occasionally succeeds at humor).

Al Gore, while taking some liberties and often overstating his case, is generally agreed by the vast majority of experts in the field as being mostly right on the science in his documentary and this information does nothing to rebut that.

Hope your kool-aid doesn't kill us all but it very well may.

[Samiam]

Hope your kool-aid doesn't kill us all but it very well may.

You are jumping to conclusions.

All I said is that, for the most part, "Inconvenient Truth" got the science right. I said nothing about the conclusions drawn.

If you are asking, I personally question whether global warming is a bad thing. Even if it is, I haven't yet heard a public policy that appropriately addresses the problem, so I say there's no government solution here. Asking the federal government to solve the climate change problem (assuming it is a problem) through policy is like asking the Three Stooges to perform a ballet. They might come up with some lame-brained idea like promotion of biofuels which result in the creation of MORE greenhouse gases and skyrocketing of food prices. Oh, wait...uh oh.

[AKIron]

You are jumping to conclusions.

All I said is that, for the most part, "Inconvenient Truth" got the science right. I said nothing about the conclusions drawn.

If you are asking, I personally question whether global warming is a bad thing. Even if it is, I haven't yet heard a public policy that appropriately addresses the problem, so I say there's no government solution here. Asking the federal government to solve the climate change problem (assuming it is a problem) through policy is like asking the Three Stooges to perform a ballet. They might come up with some lame-brained idea like promotion of biofuels which result in the creation of MORE greenhouse gases and skyrocketing of food prices. Oh, wait...uh oh.

My apologies. However, I disagree that there was any science in Al Bore's presentation. He completely ignored the fact that his charts clearly showed c02 lagging temperature rises in every instance. Perhaps ignore isn't the right word, he basically said it was too complicated for his listeners to understand. 

[bj229r]

If you have to misrepresent the truth to make your point, you've failed--it cannot be defended (despite Gore's sycophants efforts)

[iWalrus]

geeze walrus.. even when the guy gets caught red handed lieing to you..   you still worship at his feet because... just like the lefty critics and such....

The end justifies the means.

lazs

I actually don't like Al Gore. I don't like his politics, and I don't like the man. I don't know how a simple question caused you to jump to that assumption.

Still, no one has said exactly how his use of the clip was a lie. That was the point of this thread, I believe - that he was lying by using this clip. No one has an answer? I usually like to have a clear understanding of why I am accusing someone of a lie. I freely admit that I do not know what the point of the clip was. That is why I can't call him a liar - yet. If I did know, then I could call him a liar, or I could say that he wasn't lying because he did not present it as "real". With all these people calling him a liar, with regard to this clip, I figured they must know. Everyone who called him a liar knows exactly how the clip was presented, right? Can anyone share this knowledge?

I'm giving everyone the benefit of the doubt here, and assuming that you all know your facts about the clip before crying, "LIAR!" I mean, that is what anyone with half a brain would do.
 

[Donzo]

I actually don't like Al Gore. I don't like his politics, and I don't like the man. I don't know how a simple question caused you to jump to that assumption.

Still, no one has said exactly how his use of the clip was a lie. That was the point of this thread, I believe - that he was lying by using this clip. No one has an answer? I usually like to have a clear understanding of why I am accusing someone of a lie. I freely admit that I do not know what the point of the clip was. That is why I can't call him a liar - yet. If I did know, then I could call him a liar, or I could say that he wasn't lying because he did not present it as "real". With all these people calling him a liar, with regard to this clip, I figured they must know. Everyone who called him a liar knows exactly how the clip was presented, right? Can anyone share this knowledge?

I'm giving everyone the benefit of the doubt here, and assuming that you all know your facts about the clip before crying, "LIAR!" I mean, that is what anyone with half a brain would do.
 

iSheeple, why use CGI when if you claim something is happening you can just go and use real footage of that something?

[AKIron]

If you have to misrepresent the truth to make your point, you've failed--it cannot be defended (despite Gore's sycophants efforts)

If only that were true. Unfortunately Gore added many more believers to the church of Global Warming. A church that may wind up killing more than all the other religions throughout history combined.