An Inconvenient ....fiction

[Sox62]

global warming? Yeah...whatever. Warmest year in recorded history......and they've been recording for less than 200 years.

You sure about that?

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has data that states differently.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008/20080313_coolest.html

[WWhiskey]

The difference between Al Gore and Michael Moore (and Ben Stein) is that the latter are completely intellectually dishonest.

Ben stein-education-Columbia university,Yale.
taught at-American university,U.C. santa cruz, Peperdine
 worked for-poverty lawyer in Connecticut and D.C., trail lawyer for the fedaral trade commision, speech writer for both nixon and ford(many thought he was deep throat), authored 27 different books(20 nonfiction), countless movie and tv roles,
( I consider him one of the most honest people in the country)
source-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Stein

Al gore-education-St. Albans school in D.C. and Harvard, also attained a one year rockefeller scolarship, two years at Vanderbilt but attained no degree before running for congress
worked for-U.S. army,as a reporter, The Tennessean as a reporter
source-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_gore

Micheal Moore- education-Davison high school, University of Michigan at Flint(dropout), also once described as "a very ideological guy and not a very well-educated guy"
lifetime member of the N.R.A.
worked for-"one day" at the Genaral motors plant, editor of "Mother Jones", a liberal political magazine( fired after four months), suporting role in Lucky numbers, has made seven films.
source-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micheal_Moore

Im not sure why you think Ben Stein is the one who is "completely intellectually dishonest" his life time acheivments would certainly point otherwise!
 you dont have to believe what he believes to understand what he stands for! I'm not sure you can say that about the other two?
maybe i read your statement wrong?

[lazs2]

samiam.. if those allegations against Stein are correct then he is no better than moore or algor.. It is odd tho that there is no talk of academy awards or nobel prizes for his work tho and just all this outrage.

mini..  yep..."man made climate change" is the newspeak on what mother nature is doing..  the idiot scientists painted themselves into a corner yet again with the whole "man made global warming thing"

Didn't they realize that mother nature could do em in within their lifetimes?  they thought they were safe predicting disaster and doom for 50 or 100 years in the future.. long after they had spent the money but... it is getting colder.   Now the weak shift to "man made global climate change"  they better hurry up and panic everyone before it becomes obvious that they don't have a clue what is going on.

The really smart ones have shifted from being "climate scientists" to earthquake scientists.... If you predict an earthquake for 50 years in the future.. you can live quite well.. and probly be dead... by the time it is proven that you are full of it.. and hell.. there is even a chance you will be right.. even if there is a normal and small earthquake.. you can say that it is just the precursor or whatever.. make it up as you go.. so long as the money rolls in for the research.

did you guys know that this latest doom and gloom major earthquake prediction came just days after it was learned that Bush was cutting funding for earthquake research in half?

http://science.house.gov/randd/budget_demstaff-analysis03.htm

how easily led are you sheeple? 

Was listening to NPR and the show was on the impending earthquake.. it was dire in the extreme.. it also told of how with enough research we could save billions of lives!!!!!!   but alas..  the end of the program explained how this was all for naught as the evil booooosh had cut this vital (and so far useless) earthquake budget.

lazs

[Jackal1]

Dunno about Gore's facts, only saw slabs from the film. Maybe I should however call him and tell him of bumble-bees in Iceland .... in April. As well as I'm finishing my field jobs in a time on the calendar where I usually hadn't started.
He could film that, and not use any hype at all 

Yeah..he could call it......weather.

[ridley1]

You sure about that?

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has data that states differently.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008/20080313_coolest.html

Sox, what I meant was that when they talk about everything as being record this, and record that.......the records only go back 200 years.
 Statistics have a nasty habit of being able to state what you want them to state. Geologiecally, 200 years won't give you a trend

[Samiam]

Im not sure why you think Ben Stein is the one who is "completely intellectually dishonest" his life time acheivments would certainly point otherwise!
 you dont have to believe what he believes to understand what he stands for! I'm not sure you can say that about the other two?
maybe i read your statement wrong?

By intellectually dishonest, I mean that he knows the truth is very different from what he is portraying in his movie. Same with Moore. Al Gore, at least it's my impression, firmly believes what he says. You may not, and he does overstate the case, but I don't think he knows he's wrong but throws BS out at the rest of us as do Moore and Stein.

[WWhiskey]

By intellectually dishonest, I mean that he knows the truth is very different from what he is portraying in his movie. Same with Moore. Al Gore, at least it's my impression, firmly believes what he says. You may not, and he does overstate the case, but I don't think he knows he's wrong but throws BS out at the rest of us as do Moore and Stein.

if that is true then he is more of a moron than i thought,(al gore) i just figured he was out too pad his pocket like most of the rest of the global climate bunch, and i bet when he finds out the truth do you think he will give all the money back, or too feed the millions that he helped too starve ? i doubt it!

[SIK1]

Just look at the company he keep(albore). I know it's guilt by association but hey if the shoe fits.

[Jackal1]

In earlier times Bore would have needed a brightly painted wagon and a load of snake oil medicine.........or possibly a rain making machine.

[lazs2]

samiam.. are you saying that because algor is dumber than Stein or moore.. that he is not to blame for the abortion of a film?  that you give him extra credit for wanting to do something good.. even if it proves (like the DDT ban and MTBE) to kill millions or destroy water supplies?   Are you saying that because of that he deserves all the awards...

Yet..  moore got awards too and his hoaxes were loudly and soundly praised.. the errors glossed over and dissmissed.. 

Why then not Stein?    Are you maybe being a tad bit dishonest with yourself?

lazs

[AKIron]

Note the date on this article. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/23/AR2006052301305_pf.html

"In just three, five, maybe eight years, he says, the world will begin to cool again."

[Donzo]

People have become wise to the socialism regime. 

Global whatever is an attempt to disguise socialist priciples.