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Re: NDISLES. UTERUS and BALTIC maps will be the undoing of Aces High
« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2008, 07:48:27 PM »
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Re: NDISLES. UTERUS and BALTIC maps will be the undoing of Aces High
« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2008, 07:53:35 PM »
While I would never insult anyone at HiTech, or be rude to them, let me see If I have this right. They, and some of you, expect the customers to make the game maps?
Many if not most of the maps we have in the game are player-made, so asking players to put up or hush up is in keeping with the history of the game.

How many maps were ever in those "other games?"  Did they have new ones every week?

To MajorIssue, seeing as you don't like playing on these stale maps, maybe you could use your spare time building a few new ones. You know, just "whip" them up. I'm sure you'd have no problem rolling them out lets say..... one a week maybe?  :aok

Perhaps if you took Fugitive's advice and see just what it takes to make a map, you will understand why there are not hundreds of different maps.  

Besides, the terrain is just stuff you fly and fight over anyway . . . when you are in the air, who cares what is beneath?  So in reality, you only need one map (as long as it is NOT uterus  ;)).
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Re: NDISLES. UTERUS and BALTIC maps will be the undoing of Aces High
« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2008, 07:55:47 PM »
While I would never insult anyone at HiTech, or be rude to them, let me see If I have this right. They, and some of you, expect the customers to make the game maps?


It's called player created content and is one of the best things about MMO communities.  Some of the best content for online games have been created by the community, there is no reason why HTC shouldn't tap into this vast and creative resource.  HiTech would be remiss if he didn't have HTC make these tools unavailable to the community.  Actually, the one redeeming quality about the H2H were some of the maps created by the players.  I wish I had the time and the knowledge to create maps myself as I have some really good ideas for quite a few but I don't.  I'm glad though there are players like Fester and the other map makers that do have the time and knowledge to create some of our maps.  Maybe you should think about whether you have the time and see if you can create some maps yourself, you know, put into the game and community that you so willingly leech off of.


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Re: NDISLES. UTERUS and BALTIC maps will be the undoing of Aces High
« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2008, 07:59:50 PM »
AW had two maps, one Europe, one pacific. FA had one map split into 5 teams?  :huh I didn't fly or play Warbirds or WWII Online long enough to remember how many maps they had, but I don't think it was any where as many as AH has.

Of the 18.... yes 18 maps available to the MAs, 6 where made by HT staff, and the rest where player submitted.Considering the number available, as compared to the other games, there are more than enough maps. Even resetting a map each day it would take more than 2 weeks to duplicate a map. With everything else on their plate maps are not going to be a priority to HTC.

"Why" all the maps are not in rotation is a question that I wish HTC would answer here on the boards. I'm sure there is a good reason for each map that has been removed, I'm just curios as to what they are. Maybe posting the reasons will quite the calls for bringing them back, or maybe solutions can be found for the problems.

That leaves player built maps. The tools are available, but map making is not just a "point and click" operation. While the actual building of the maps is a bit of a daunting task, you can add in the "playability" of a map as well as considerations for strategic play. Anyone of these things can get a map rejected, which is another reason why most don't want to invest the time to build them.

Do I expect the "customers to make the maps", only those complaining about not having enough maps  :devil

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Re: NDISLES. UTERUS and BALTIC maps will be the undoing of Aces High
« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2008, 08:26:08 PM »
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Do I expect the "customers to make the maps", only those complaining about not having enough maps

Were the ones paying money to play the game. For AH, or anyone else, to have the expectation that the customers who are paying the money to play, should also make the content, is ridiculous. Sorry but I already have one full time job and a part time job. I dont have the time to make content for a game that Im paying to play. Even if I had the knowledge, which I dont.

Dont get me wrong. Its great they have this option available for the players that have the interest. But to have the expectation??? :huh Whos paying who to play the game?

By the same token if someone feels there are things that need changing, or need adding, or need deleting, they have a right to say so in the forum without being pounced on by other $15 a month players, who have no official position in HiTech inc, yet for some reason choose to sound off like VPs of marketing. Unless your punching a time clock for Aces High you got no right to call "another customer" a "whiner" for wanting something new in the game. Like new maps.

I dont agree with neither the tone or the wording of the original post in this thread, or accusing anyone at HTC of anything negative. I have actually found them to be the complete opposite of that, and very helpful. But the guy has the right to ask for new maps.
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Re: NDISLES. UTERUS and BALTIC maps will be the undoing of Aces High
« Reply #50 on: April 24, 2008, 08:49:44 PM »
Do we really need more new maps when great maps go unused i.e. FesterMA, Trinity, and Doughnut?
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Re: NDISLES. UTERUS and BALTIC maps will be the undoing of Aces High
« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2008, 09:02:06 PM »
personally, i say put it back how it used 2 b... 1 arena... and fighter town =D


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Re: NDISLES. UTERUS and BALTIC maps will be the undoing of Aces High
« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2008, 09:02:06 PM »
"Expecting" HTC to continuously provide new maps is as bad as "Expecting" the player base to provide the new maps don't ya think? HTC provide timely updates to their systems, and provides a game and game play area for your $15 a month. Expecting more with out an increase in the monthly payment is ridiculous.

Maybe "Expecting" isn't the word we should be bouncing around here. Do I expect the players to make the maps? No, but I also don't expect HTC to make more maps either. For my $15 a month I expect to be able to log on and fly my cartoon planes for a bit. I expect to get an occasional plane added to the plane set. I expect the the servers to be maintained and up to date.

This game came with 6 maps that either were won to be replaced with the next in the rotation, or were reset once a week with the next in the rotation. No one should expect more. We were lucky to have a number of gifted people willing to spend the huge amount of time necessary to build "additional" maps. Those that come on these boards and "demand", and "belittle" HTC and their staff have no rights to voice their opinions even if they send in their $15 a month. A little respect goes a long way.

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Re: NDISLES. UTERUS and BALTIC maps will be the undoing of Aces High
« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2008, 09:10:45 PM »
Am I the only one who likes all 3 of those maps? 
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Re: NDISLES. UTERUS and BALTIC maps will be the undoing of Aces High
« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2008, 09:18:52 PM »
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"Expecting" HTC to continuously provide new maps is as bad as "Expecting" the player base to provide the new maps don't ya think?


                    No. I dont. Digital content is digital content. Its all zeros and ones whether its a new airplane, a new bomb, or a new map.

Frankly there are some maps I like a lot. The only one I cant stand is the uterus. And the reason I cant stand it is cause it leads to stale gameplay. Remember the last time when it lasted for like four weeks?

Ive come to love some of the big maps. The volcanos are terrific places for 1 on 1s. Anyway i had my say and we'll agree to disagree. I think its silly to expect your paying player base to create their digital content.
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Re: NDISLES. UTERUS and BALTIC maps will be the undoing of Aces High
« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2008, 10:17:03 PM »
My .02 is worth less than 2 cents, but it's free.

While I have to agree that the maps can get a bit stale, the game play on each one is more to blame then the map itself.  If you don't like uterus, go find a live one and destroy it.  Don't like Isles, get in a boat and go fishing.  Don't like another map, make a new one.  If either side would start working together, the maps would be reset more often and we might get a chance to see the other available maps.  Squads and players switching sides to help those with the least players ruins chances of quick resets.  Lazy? I don't think so.  Drinking the Scotch ya'll sent to HTC, maybe. :uhoh.  Maybe if you were to get together with your squad and help take some bases to reset the map instead of just vulching the same field for 4 weeks, we could get a reset.  Pay your 15 a month, fly or don't fly, make a map or not, but post something that could help instead of the ramblings of a idiot.


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Re: NDISLES. UTERUS and BALTIC maps will be the undoing of Aces High
« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2008, 06:58:19 AM »
I just watch more TV.  I saw Charlie Wilson's War last night... good movie... bad maps.


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Re: NDISLES. UTERUS and BALTIC maps will be the undoing of Aces High
« Reply #58 on: April 25, 2008, 07:14:08 AM »
Remember fellas, maps have to be "player made".  So download the terrain editor or get on some buddies to do it.  That's the only way you will see new maps.

Is there instructions on how to use the terrain editor? I've tryed to figure it out on my own and have failed several times.

HTC has had several maps sumitted over the years, why can't they just go through their files and put them back in the rotation?With all due respect, I don't understand why the customers have to make maps. What are we paying HTC for? I'd like to hear from HiTech on this.
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Re: NDISLES. UTERUS and BALTIC maps will be the undoing of Aces High
« Reply #59 on: April 25, 2008, 07:17:47 AM »
I think we'd all be pretty bored if HT stopped making new planes, fixing bugs, and, most importantly, hosting the servers.