Mossi MK 6 = Bogusly undermodeled

[SmokinLoon]

If the Mossi VI is supposed to go faster then why doesnt it?  If the dampeners are not supposed to be there then why are they???  Take the muzzle off the Mossi and let it be the attack aircraft is is supposed to be! 

The Mossi, at least IMO, is one of the aircraft that isnt living up to its WWII legend status.  What the Mossi cant out-gun it should be able to out-run, and what it cant out-run it should be able to out-gun and neither seems to be happenin'.

EDIT: Oh, and I own page 4!

[Motherland]

If the Mossi VI is supposed to go faster then why doesnt it?  If the dampeners are not supposed to be there then why are they??? 

It ISN'T supposed to go faster, and the dampeners ARE supposed to be there. Read the thread

The Mossi, at least IMO, is one of the aircraft that isnt living up to its WWII legend status.  What the Mossi cant out-gun it should be able to out-run, and what it cant out-run it should be able to out-gun and neither seems to be happenin'.

Fly it against the 109G6 and earlier and the 190A5. You'll find it does exactly what it's supposed to.

[uberslet]

Some general info:

Mk IV = most common Bomber
Mk VI = most common Fighter-Bomber

We have the Mk VI

thought so   

[Karnak]

Fly it against the 109G6 and earlier and the 190A5. You'll find it does exactly what it's supposed to.

Actually, no, it doesn't.  I have been run down in stern chases by both the Bf109G-2, Bf109G-6 and Fw190A-5 when they did not dive on me and the chase was long enough for any speed to have bled down to max sustained on my Mossie, and it bleeds speed slower than almost any other aircraft.  There are numerous accounts of Mossie VIs holding distance or out running Bf109s and Fw190s on the deck.


As to this chart:

The undampered FB.Mk VI would perform very much like the Mk.33, at least at lower alts.

[mensa180]

It certainly seems like most of these kids have never even been near a library, so we can rule that out.

Do not put us all in the same boat .

[PFactorDave]

Honestly, the only real problem with the Mossie is that in the MAs it is forced to compete against a fair number of aircraft that it really wasn't ever required to fight. 

I really think that the Mossie would do a bit better if all it ever came up against were German craft.

[Captfish]

Honestly, the only real problem with the Mossie is that in the MAs it is forced to compete against a fair number of aircraft that it really wasn't ever required to fight. 

 the same could be said about most of the planes.
 

[mensa180]

Honestly, the only real problem with the Mossie is that in the MAs it is forced to compete against a fair number of aircraft that it really wasn't ever required to fight. 

I really think that the Mossie would do a bit better if all it ever came up against were German craft.

I disagree.

[Kev367th]

It ISN'T supposed to go faster, and the dampeners ARE supposed to be there. Read the thread ;)Fly it against the 109G6 and earlier and the 190A5. You'll find it does exactly what it's supposed to.

Actually -
For the FB VI that could also carry rockets (batch 2) flame dampers were NOT fitted as standard from the factory.
The earlier ones (batch 1) did come from the factory with flame dampers fitted.

As ours is a batch 2 FB VI Mossie it shouldn't have flame dampers fitted.

[Scherf]

There's enough pics at the Imperial War Museum site, assorted Coastal Command sites to make it clear that ejector exhausts were used for daylight ops.

However, 450 on the deck? "Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight".

Fellow I used to correspond with used to be with one of the MUs testing new airframes - said they dived them to 480 on tests. But then, they were wild young men in them days.

[Noir]

Here we go again with the "classic" exhaust dampener thread - a good one thougt

[SmokinLoon]

So now I guess the question begs this:

Can AH release the Mossi IV from its bonds and remove the dampeners for a few weeks? 

If data shows a dramatic increase in success rate to the point of unbalancing whatever is in fear of being unbalanced... then AH can always place the "damned dampener hampers" back on and slow it down. 

I'm not familar enough with the "1st batch/2nd batch stuff" and dont have the sources on hand to look it up, but if that is true... then hopefully AH admins will at least consider allow the mod for a trial.     PLEASE!?   

[OntosMk1]

I think they used some p51s in vietnam

  Please show me some your proof that the pony served in Vietnam. Korea, yes. But I highly doubt it served in Vietnam.

[uberslet]

Please show me some your proof that the pony served in Vietnam. Korea, yes. But I highly doubt it served in Vietnam.

ontos is right. did a project on the 51 last year for school, it was retired in like '55. never served in nam.

[Ack-Ack]

Please show me some your proof that the pony served in Vietnam. Korea, yes. But I highly doubt it served in Vietnam.

I think I already showed in my previous post in this thread, he was completely wrong about P-51s taking part in Vietnam.


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