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Offline ridley1

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Re: The king on the WW2 battlefield
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2008, 10:30:50 AM »
Japan had ground vehicles? I mean....worthy of putting into the game?

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Re: The king on the WW2 battlefield
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2008, 12:34:21 PM »
No, they were not.  Less than 500 King Tigers were built.  About 1400 262s were built.

But how many 262's saw combat? :D
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Re: The king on the WW2 battlefield
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2008, 12:49:31 PM »
But how many 262's saw combat? :D
i think only a couple hundred were produced that actually saw combat. numbers wernt that big
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Re: The king on the WW2 battlefield
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2008, 01:21:26 PM »
Was a really good tank but if it was put in game i would have to push for it reliability too.

It's not like a whole lot of traveling is done by any GV in this game, plus a lot of factors added to it's known problems mainly transmission related. The King Tiger had the ability to reverse one tract while forwarding the other enabling it to spin on a dime. From what I read  this kinda tore up the tranni a bit as well as the sheer weight of the tank. The engine was the typical Maybach and from my understanding had to run at full blast just to get the tank moving. Also the added steering problems again attributed to the weight. I really think the Panther would be a better addition. If the King Tiger is perked which it would be , the effect of eny would make it so the other guy couldn't up one to kill it. The Panther would be able to be killed by the Firefly and Tiger and if the panzers remain the same that should be able to kill it as well.

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Re: The king on the WW2 battlefield
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2008, 01:25:36 PM »
Did anyone happen to notice there were other countries involved in WW2 that do not have a solid Gv representation? (Japan, England)

Who would use them, both countrys didn't make a tank that could compete even with the T-34 or MkIV

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Re: The king on the WW2 battlefield
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2008, 01:27:44 PM »
uhh.... IF we get the Tiger II, we should get the Is-2, Su-100, OR the T-34/85 to sorta counter it.  :aok

Su-100 and T-34/85 don't match up very well with the King Tiger unless close. Is-2 would be a decent counter.

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Re: The king on the WW2 battlefield
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2008, 01:35:22 PM »
Who would use them, both countrys didn't make a tank that could compete even with the T-34 or MkIV
The UK had some ok tanks and even some good ones thjat saw limited combat.
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Re: The king on the WW2 battlefield
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2008, 02:13:59 PM »
Who would use them, both countrys didn't make a tank that could compete even with the T-34 or MkIV

The A34 Comet would do a number on both the MkIV's and the T-34/76's we have now.

I say HiTech should make like Christmas and give us the Panther and the T-34/85 at the same time. :aok
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Re: The king on the WW2 battlefield
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2008, 02:57:04 PM »
It's not like a whole lot of traveling is done by any GV in this game, plus a lot of factors added to it's known problems mainly transmission related. The King Tiger had the ability to reverse one tract while forwarding the other enabling it to spin on a dime. From what I read  this kinda tore up the tranni a bit as well as the sheer weight of the tank. The engine was the typical Maybach and from my understanding had to run at full blast just to get the tank moving. Also the added steering problems again attributed to the weight. I really think the Panther would be a better addition. If the King Tiger is perked which it would be , the effect of eny would make it so the other guy couldn't up one to kill it. The Panther would be able to be killed by the Firefly and Tiger and if the panzers remain the same that should be able to kill it as well.

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the panther also had transmission problems, the gears were made for a smaller tank, probly the panther would be also hard 2 kill in a head 2 head fight
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Re: The king on the WW2 battlefield
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2008, 04:07:56 PM »
The A34 Comet would do a number on both the MkIV's and the T-34/76's we have now.

I say HiTech should make like Christmas and give us the Panther and the T-34/85 at the same time. :aok
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Comet was a decent tank but only 1400 were delivered by wars end and non saw any real combat. The remainder of the British tanks were rather under gunned and were considered infantry support tanks. Again the Comet could compete but I don't think would make much diffrence or get used as much as say a new german or russian tank.

Look at the P-39. I saw the skies full of them the first week and now I  see one about once a week and it generally doesn't stay in the air very long after it's spotted. I guess if HT was going to put 3-4 new tanks in the comet could be considered but as long as it's taken to get new planes in I would opt for something that people are going to use day in  day out like they would the Panther of a T-35/85

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Re: The king on the WW2 battlefield
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2008, 04:09:29 PM »


the panther also had transmission problems, the gears were made for a smaller tank, probly the panther would be also hard 2 kill in a head 2 head fight

All the Panther's problems were worked out by the G model

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Re: The king on the WW2 battlefield
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2008, 04:18:18 PM »
Comet was a decent tank but only 1400 were delivered by wars end and non saw any real combat. The remainder of the British tanks were rather under gunned and were considered infantry support tanks. Again the Comet could compete but I don't think would make much diffrence or get used as much as say a new german or russian tank.

Look at the P-39. I saw the skies full of them the first week and now I  see one about once a week and it generally doesn't stay in the air very long after it's spotted. I guess if HT was going to put 3-4 new tanks in the comet could be considered but as long as it's taken to get new planes in I would opt for something that people are going to use day in  day out like they would the Panther of a T-35/85
Your comment was that neither the Japanese or the Brits made a tank that could handle the MkIV or the T-34/76. As I said, the Comet could defeat both quite handily.

As I also said, and you've apparently agreed with, the Panther and the T-34/85 would be the most logical next additions for tanks.
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Re: The king on the WW2 battlefield
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2008, 04:25:30 PM »
The UK had some ok tanks and even some good ones thjat saw limited combat.

Nothing the Brits produced were comparable to what the German's had. Again most of their tanks were used as infantry support. Up until Normandy the Allies never really got to engage any of the German Uber tanks. The Russian front was where the real tank battles took place and where most tank design evolved. Armor got thicker and main guns got bigger. In 1944 D-Day the America's main battle tank was the Sherman which was incapable of competing with the Tigers, Panthers and even the late MkIV's. It had a low velocity main gun that was useless at standoff ranges . It was the Russian's who forced the Germans to produce these tanks and if was the Germans who forced the allies especially the Americans to come up with new designs to combat the German armor. The Brits did at wars end have a couple of decent tanks but nothing special in regards to design, armor and main guns. The 17 pounder was fine up to the Tiger but was once again out classed by the King Tigers and late war tank destroyers armor and main gun. The penetrating power of the King Tigers main gun at range was enough to combat even the latest Russian tanks.The Brits had nothing to counter these tanks.

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Re: The king on the WW2 battlefield
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2008, 04:27:58 PM »
Your comment was that neither the Japanese or the Brits made a tank that could handle the MkIV or the T-34/76. As I said, the Comet could defeat both quite handily.

As I also said, and you've apparently agreed with, the Panther and the T-34/85 would be the most logical next additions for tanks.

The comet never really saw action. Doesn't that seems to be a criteria with most people. I said the T-34/85 could not compete with the King Tiger.

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Re: The king on the WW2 battlefield
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2008, 04:39:23 PM »
this story was from a while back but didnt someone post a thing about an M8 Armored car crew that succesfully destroyed a King Tiger in the Battle of the Bulge (From Point blank range of course)

After a bunch of research I found out the armor on the rear of the KT was in fact thin enough to be penetrated by the 37mm on the M8